tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post397395547054466505..comments2024-03-28T13:50:13.707-05:00Comments on Bayou Renaissance Man: Photographic evidence of the auto industry's dilemmaPeterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-55339199898641917002017-07-28T08:09:21.889-05:002017-07-28T08:09:21.889-05:00Aren't those runway pictures fake? Put there t...Aren't those runway pictures fake? Put there to obscure what's really there?Quentinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-48555044256544288702017-07-27T09:06:24.393-05:002017-07-27T09:06:24.393-05:00I wish. Elio is a dead deal. I don't see much ...I wish. Elio is a dead deal. I don't see much chance of anything every coming out of that factory besides surplus equipment. I was looking at one for a commuter vehicle and was very enthusiastic.JayNolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08968502576630432928noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-67294050051817699342017-07-26T04:50:55.898-05:002017-07-26T04:50:55.898-05:00Hey Peter;
I remembered seeing something in Ge...Hey Peter;<br /><br /> I remembered seeing something in Germany where they were destroying excess new cars to prevent a glut on the market. I don't think that would work over here. I think the VAT and the tax structure had something to do with that over there. I paid cash for my truck, had to go out of state to find a truck in my price range, they were too expensive in the ATL area and suburbs.MrGarabaldihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-75633787535308110482017-07-25T20:07:48.165-05:002017-07-25T20:07:48.165-05:00I got a certified formerly leased 2014 Hyundai Son...I got a certified formerly leased 2014 Hyundai Sonata with 19,000 miles on it for 14,000. Still has 3 years of bumper to bumper warranty on it and was spotless inside. Why buy new when you can buy certified??? LCBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03146393047895889252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-40164452557596565622017-07-25T16:46:30.336-05:002017-07-25T16:46:30.336-05:00My experience from three decades of retailing auto...My experience from three decades of retailing automobiles. There are very few cash sales. Rare. The true customer is the lender. Lenders tighten, sales go down. The variables are numerous, and I can just hear all the "yeah, buts". What I said is bedrock.<br /><br />In thousands of transactions, the old bore/stroke proved true. How much down, how much a month.<br /><br />As to why the lenders have clamped down, I haven't a clue. What I do know is, if financing is available, someone will buy a three wheeled go cart with a lawnmower engine.Well Seasoned Foolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16670165728759453075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-88043820334668275642017-07-25T16:03:47.333-05:002017-07-25T16:03:47.333-05:00Just FYI~
In MY experience--Doesn't hurt a thi...Just FYI~<br />In MY experience--Doesn't hurt a thing to let a car set. 3 years? Just like yesterday.<br /> I DID put some Stable in the gas tank. The battery may go dead, depends on how old- naturally...<br />Old cars- get in and pump the carb a couple times and fire away. Fuel injected- engage ignition and listen for fuel pump to spool up= then engage starter.<br />No muss no fuss.<br />YES- critters can be a problem- especially if near a food source (Like a barn with hay or grain- expect nesting! So do NOT do that!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-68525268575604042592017-07-25T11:29:19.538-05:002017-07-25T11:29:19.538-05:00Elio is gonna be a long wait for a train that ain&...Elio is gonna be a long wait for a train that ain't commin'. The have been saying "we start delivery on___ day" for, What? 10 years? Its a scam and always was. Maybe if the "auto industry" made cars that people actually wanted (like the Elio fantasy) they might actually be selling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-35285781948370453212017-07-25T10:57:41.447-05:002017-07-25T10:57:41.447-05:00I agree with David - I bet a bunch of these models...I agree with David - I bet a bunch of these models are small cars or bigger vehicles with small engines that the companies have to build to balance their fleet mpg for government requirements. I also suspect that GM is either still under government influence, or still has the mindset of being under government influence, and is building what they believe people SHOULD buy, not what they WANT to buy - aka, they are not operating as a profit oriented free market company, and therefore will be in trouble again soon. <br /><br />As you mentioned previously, car prices have gotten out of whack with incomes. I'll be needing another car in the next year or so, but I will NOT be looking at anything near new due to the cost. I plan to pay cash for a 2005 - 2010 used vehicle with low miles. I also expect it will take me a while to find what I want. The last time I bought a car, after I decided on the model I wanted, it took me 2 months and a 120 miles drive to find one at a reasonable price with low miles. I paid 60% of what many dealers were asking and ended up with a car with less than 50% of the miles. <br /><br />I've noticed that in both new and used cars, prices can vary wildly over 100 to 150 miles; I considered a new pickup truck 2 years ago and found that if I drove 120 miles I could save $6,000 compared to buying the same truck at the local dealer that I drive by on my way to work.<br /><br />Both of these example show how our country is being sorted into classes by those who make wise decisions and those who do not - knowledge classes instead of social classes. Jonathan Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10476185257203343474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-79384017266422610362017-07-25T10:39:38.885-05:002017-07-25T10:39:38.885-05:00David Lang writes:
Another cause of this overprod...David Lang writes:<br /><br />Another cause of this overproduction is the fleet fuel economy requirements. People don't want to buy some of the models, but if they don't build a bunch of them, they can't sell the cars/trucks that people actually want to buy because their fleet mpg ratings wouldn't be high enough to satisfy the government.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12084309137541367977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-75294135866252795122017-07-25T10:39:02.229-05:002017-07-25T10:39:02.229-05:00Is that why the automakers and dealerships are so ...Is that why the automakers and dealerships are so aggressive and incessant with their ubiquitous and omnipresent advertising?Tal Hartsfeldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05077424958233740898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-58455183610310063782017-07-25T10:35:08.740-05:002017-07-25T10:35:08.740-05:00There are some companies trying to do something ab...There are some companies trying to do something about it. <br />For urban/commuter cars, Elio (eliomotors.com) is working on (not yet shipping, but I think it may actually happen) a two seater (fore and aft) tricycle with good safety features; mpg in the 80ish range (small, aerodynamic,) with a new engine but as many off the shelf parts as possible with the target price being under $8000. Not electric, not hybrid. Built in the U.S. of A. They've got over 65k reservations, involving some amount of up-front whipout (credit for that phrase goes, as far as I know, to Dan Jenkins in <i>Semi-Tough.</i><br /><br /><br />Assuming they do launch, I'm going to have to get in and out of one and drive it for a while before I put money on one; my back won't go for a lot of cars.Peter Bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-22066589135728677832017-07-25T10:23:16.185-05:002017-07-25T10:23:16.185-05:00On the upshot, eventually they'll HAVE to drop...On the upshot, eventually they'll HAVE to drop their prices if they want to recoup ANY money from this stock.<br /><br />Maybe my old Ford can hold out a little longer, just long enough for that price drop :)<br /><br />(Irony: the reCaptcha was 'select all images with cars in them')Toastridernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-80167545874818336392017-07-25T10:09:01.216-05:002017-07-25T10:09:01.216-05:00Yeah. What about supply and demand driving prices?...Yeah. What about supply and demand driving prices? Smells bad--kind of a cartel odor, seems to me.<br /><br />TCLeatherneckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00737350717312065042noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-65289283618957108122017-07-25T09:40:48.201-05:002017-07-25T09:40:48.201-05:00Sounds like car prices are way too high then...Sounds like car prices are way too high then...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com