tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post5950171007898819181..comments2024-03-28T23:57:50.103-05:00Comments on Bayou Renaissance Man: Are gunbloggers being used to support deception?Peterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-34741568805526466092013-01-10T05:57:28.244-06:002013-01-10T05:57:28.244-06:00Still catching up on my post-Christmas reading, bu...Still catching up on my post-Christmas reading, but I can only thank Peter for the added eyes on that post, and agree entirely with what he said. Linogehttp://www.wallsofthecity.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-22652098937935904312012-12-27T13:04:16.602-06:002012-12-27T13:04:16.602-06:00I also tend to look at this more as marketing than...I also tend to look at this more as marketing than ethics.<br /><br />Let me ask this: So they do business with a variety of virtual storefronts... so what?<br /><br />Is the ammo being offered at virtual place A significantly different from virtual place B, C, or D? Is one of their virtual storefronts somehow more objectionable than others (racist, sexist, etc.) while the others pretend to be more family friendly?<br /><br />I know there is the question "what else do they lie about?", but seriously- 500 rounds of Aguila 230gr .45ACP is 500 rounds of Aguila 230gr .45ACP. If they try to shortchange you or bait and switch it will get discovered quickly. <br /><br />Lacking some other indicator that they are trying to cheat people, I can see why some folks might think this is hinky but I just can't sign on to the outrage. Either they give you what you purchased for the price displayed or they don't. If they do, what does the name matter? The Raving Prophethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08830254881182697135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-83879456262959666552012-12-26T13:15:12.429-06:002012-12-26T13:15:12.429-06:00I don't see this as particularly new, or parti...I don't see this as particularly new, or particularly worrying. It's a function of the nature of search engines - if you want to get 80% of the customers, you need to have all 5 of the top search returns, not just one. Making several different companies in order to capture the lion's share of the eyeballs seems a logical extension of all the tweaking of SEO tools, tags, links, blogs, facebook and twitter tie-ins, and so on. (Besides, if you try seven versions of a basic business model, you never know which one will really get popular - but you have a better chance that one will!)<br /><br />In Chicago, there was (still is) a single store in the clubbing district that is a block to itself - but it maintains each storefront as though they are separate businesses. Now, in that case, the objective is to try sixteen different ways of catching your eye, getting you in, and then hoping you'll explore the connected site and spend more money there. In the case of lucky gunner et al, it seems more like seven tries at the same market, but they don't have anything different enough to offer to want to cross-link you to other sites. <br /><br />I think you're viewing this as business ethics, which is why it makes you uneasy, and I'm viewing it as marketing, which is why I barely even notice it exists. Truth in advertising? Next up you'll want all women to wear dresses that actually show their unaltered shape instead of hiding those five extra pounds around their waist, and deodorant manufacturers to state how long until their product can't cope under the hot sun, cologne to admit it causes more sneezes in elevators than hot women to be attracted to the wearer, and fashion magazines to admit that no one, at any time or any place, has ever looked good in skinny jeans. <br /><br />Then again, I am not nearly as connected to the idea that "voluntary association implies approval" when it comes to shopping. If I restricted my buying only to businesses with who agreed with me politically, socially, religiously, and had only given campaign donations to causes I supported - I'd be missing out on great cheese, awesome coffee, produce from the farmer's market, and local honey. (Even if I do giggle for weeks afterwards at "this honey made by free-range bees".)On a Wing and a Whimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00754595334684845895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-27113659471861290612012-12-25T09:20:08.930-06:002012-12-25T09:20:08.930-06:00Thanks for the info. Not sure if I'm being har...Thanks for the info. Not sure if I'm being harmed here, but I don't care for the practice, that's for sure. If a seller is less than honest about one thing, what else are they less than honest about?Murphy's Lawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17164780742334950772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-58299112380455183462012-12-24T20:51:36.002-06:002012-12-24T20:51:36.002-06:00Unless this tactic increases the price of ammuniti...Unless this tactic increases the price of ammunition over what it otherwise would be, I see no reasons why consumers should complain. Or care.<br /><br />PeterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-21459353412641536892012-12-24T17:07:52.795-06:002012-12-24T17:07:52.795-06:00Interesting take Peter, gotta go think about this ...Interesting take Peter, gotta go think about this one.<br />Thanks!Old NFOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404197287935017147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-75503416104503585862012-12-24T16:36:44.218-06:002012-12-24T16:36:44.218-06:00Shame on them for the deceptionShame on them for the deceptionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-35289416133986439172012-12-24T10:22:52.563-06:002012-12-24T10:22:52.563-06:00I bought some ammo from Blukammo and had a good ex...I bought some ammo from Blukammo and had a good experience - good price and very quick delivery. I did it because their marketing guy emailed me and I thought I'd check it out.<br /><br />Didn't realize that they were part of (ahem) "a family of companies". Interesting.Borepatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05029434172945099693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-7449256012818703212012-12-24T09:38:04.429-06:002012-12-24T09:38:04.429-06:00I agree with you and lingoe, just because they get...I agree with you and lingoe, just because they get away with it doesn't make it right, especially when they're trying to use bloggers for advertising to prospective customers.TheAxehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04328271483659507053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-24744281508692655492012-12-24T09:36:28.888-06:002012-12-24T09:36:28.888-06:00I noticed that the blogger post here, http://www.w...I noticed that the blogger post here, http://www.wallsofthecity.net/2011/07/online-ammunition-retailers-a-hypothesis.html has advertisments from competitors and one such competitor is Cheaper than Dirt, which many thousands of us have decided to be a traitor to the cause of the second amendment and will no longer patronize them. Do I now suspect "Walls of the City" blog of being duplicitous? You know, maybe I do. Kansas Scouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15744438882831933314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-18625057933144357162012-12-24T09:27:50.221-06:002012-12-24T09:27:50.221-06:00This is overwrought nit picking. If each entity pr...This is overwrought nit picking. If each entity practices ethical, sound business practices, then I can see no deception. After all, GM had Olds, Chevy, Cadillac, Pontiac ect. Was there deception in that? Not really. Much ado about nothing. Kansas Scouthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15744438882831933314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-15548379483217919722012-12-24T09:14:24.176-06:002012-12-24T09:14:24.176-06:00It has nothing to do with deception, its how the i...It has nothing to do with deception, its how the internet works. Google created the system for ranking websites in the search results. Having multiple sites linking to each other is how you increase your ranking. I notice you link to other bloggers on this site, same thing.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16178820588691027585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-45116622058589200432012-12-24T09:03:21.915-06:002012-12-24T09:03:21.915-06:00@MSgt. B: I know that many companies do it, but t...@MSgt. B: I know that many companies do it, but that doesn't make it <i>right</i>. I'm beginning to wonder whether we don't get the vendors we deserve, if we tolerate this sort of deception from them. What happened to old-fashioned truth in advertising, and honesty in business?Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-56564761420925651552012-12-24T08:24:18.091-06:002012-12-24T08:24:18.091-06:00Merry Christmas Peter.
I've never bought ammo...Merry Christmas Peter.<br /><br />I've never bought ammo online. It's one of those things I like to see and hold in my hand before my money hits the table.<br /><br />That being said, they're just doing what dozens of other companies do, from Acuras to Zanax.MSgt Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00035771485514432736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-58233776594282049542012-12-24T06:50:33.141-06:002012-12-24T06:50:33.141-06:00A quick survey of the listed sites (I have never u...A quick survey of the listed sites (I have never used any of them to buy ammo previously) for pricing on 1,000 rounds of American Eagle .40 S&W showed different pricing, but all within a tad over 1% of each other. They seem to be marketing to slightly different groups. Given the ease with which I shopped between the sites, I don't see a major problem. <br /><br />My take on it is that the ultimate parent of these sites is trying to maximize profit, which is a good strategy. I am not offended greatly by the multiple identities of what is, essentially, the same seller. Anyone with a decent internet connection can compare prices between these and other sites quite easily. It's no more bothersome than finding out that some discount store brand is actually made by a manufacturer that also sells their name-branded product in the same store. <br /><br />And just to be open about it, I'm over 60, so it's not just a young whippersnapper thing. Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08015544320906146949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-87097073797019306602012-12-24T01:15:00.158-06:002012-12-24T01:15:00.158-06:00That premise forces gullible and jaded alike to su...That premise forces gullible and jaded alike to surmise that if the advertisers are just many versions of the same company, it would follow that the many bloggers they advertise with are just varied versions of just a small cadre of people pretending to be writers . <br />Advertising monies paid to the "bloggers" would actually stay within the company. It pays “bloggers" to produce slightly different verbiage to feed to the masses they are trying to reach, thereby getting as much lucre from as many buyers as possible.<br />Seems legit…<br />irontomflinthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14073509579686341819noreply@blogger.com