tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post7151054311758762815..comments2024-03-19T08:22:07.979-05:00Comments on Bayou Renaissance Man: More on Ferguson, and on police attitudesPeterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-81151163720530471082014-08-28T13:59:10.238-05:002014-08-28T13:59:10.238-05:00I recently took my wife to one of the NSSF's &...I recently took my wife to one of the NSSF's "First Shots" sessions at a local shooting range. The course was taught by a deputy sheriff from a neighboring county. Young guy, mid-30's, maybe. He told us that he enjoys teaching those classes, and other firearms training classes at that range, because it helps remind him that not everyone in the general public is a criminal, that there are good guys out there. He also added that he likes knowing that there are law-abiding citizens with guns out there. Dirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04353273036394049597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-39667849537486790092014-08-27T10:22:09.810-05:002014-08-27T10:22:09.810-05:00I found, in my own time with a local P.D. in the M...I found, in my own time with a local P.D. in the Midwest, that I eventually came to feel that I was surrounded by the criminal element at all times. It got to the point that my skin crawled whenever I was out in public, wondering who was about to come at me. I couldn't take it, and finally walked away.<br /><br />That's the truth of Fred's writing - and yours. When you carry a badge, you interact only with criminals and victims; it colors your perception at all times. And yes, that's the problem, and yes, your conclusion is correct: good & honest people won't put up with it, nor should they.Rev. Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04588179227576383679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-19496699804579220392014-08-27T07:23:21.163-05:002014-08-27T07:23:21.163-05:00Thanks Peter, thoughtful, insightful and dead on a...Thanks Peter, thoughtful, insightful and dead on as far as I can tell. The destruction of the core family IS a product of government dependency, where no responsibility is assumed for the children who are nothing more than earning potential...Old NFOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404197287935017147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-12370618485713915132014-08-27T01:44:43.923-05:002014-08-27T01:44:43.923-05:00I suspect perhaps that I can't get in to enoug...I suspect perhaps that I can't get in to enough things with this post. Perhaps I would do so on my own blog and dust off it's retirement's dust. However I say as someone that served a couple times in Iraq, its a far different thing in principal to be in a war zone than in the US. However some parts of the cities resemble war zones. This starts I Think at training levels. Case in point for me at least. This past weekend I was in Milwaukee for a trip, myself and friends went out to do a couple of bars. In the past and even very recent experience police will post outside of bars to help read ID's when its a college age bar often times to discern or discourage fake ID's. I just provided my ID to an officer who then took deep offense to it. Mind you if he was over 21 or 22 I'll eat a whole turkey. He then snarled at me and started to curse me out. I look a bit rough and tumble these days with a full component of facial hair but even after I said My bad and I'm sorry after he screamed at me to give my ID to the security folks.. (Yeah I can understand the whole possibility of comparing a police officer to a bar security hire..) Even after I walked away to just go in he allegedly started to scream "I am not afraid of you." After I was out of earshot. (Well I'm half deaf from the Army so whatever..) This was from a friend that I deployed to Iraq with no less. I have immediate family members that are police or training to be so. I understand a lot of the stresses. I understand the instantaneous stresses that people have to deal with in the heat of the moment. What seems to be missed is the fact of, gee, lets verify an address before we send a SWAT team though a door. Hey, how about when you might be parked two deep out side very bar in a strip being decent to someone who is obviously just providing an ID. (Hey I'm under 35 so I get carded everywhere.) <br /><br />And If this was an isolated incident I would not have even mentioned it. I've had some -Great- interactions with police. I as well am law abiding. (Though one of the two tickets I got in my life I feel was entrapment..) But I would estimate that in all my police interactions over many municipalities that its ranging from 30/70 to 40/60 for negative to positive things. This is from car crashes, reporting crimes, passing by, random interactions and the like. <br /><br />Where this to me is pertinent? I don't know where it is but it seems that either police are put out there before there is enough training. Or they are required to know all the laws in every situation. Or perhaps they just are given too much power where if they make a critical mistake they are not held accountable. Or anything and everything else it encompasses. I think there is a lot of grey lines that are ignored even if the grey lines are clearly outside of a good judgement call. This is not a matter of a draw/no draw situation as it is a police officer that makes many bad decisions that is kept on the force. Or one that is not corrected soon enough. And yeah I know this is not helped by the media that is upset with the cops when they don't do enough to save/deter crime yet is the first to jump on the flaming band wagon when a cop does something they think is negative. <br /><br />I think this is indeed a lot of police forces fighting one form of an entitlement culture or another as well as cops fighting those that would help them. Cops are expected do deal excursively with societal rot, yet when they do so in a questionable situation they get the rack. <br /><br />However, when the police come off as either an invading force or dressed not for dealing with the people as it is for dealing for a war or riot what the hell is expected?<br /><br />Sadly I think that until the police find a way to better take care of their own problems and get rid of bad officers quicker this will never go away. This goes for the command structure as well. Jesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17973419641321027031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-43939571966271730932014-08-26T23:23:02.368-05:002014-08-26T23:23:02.368-05:00Fred's column has too many truths and I'll...Fred's column has too many truths and I'll not sleep well tonight thinking back on things I'd like best to forget. I'm glad to have retired from LE and will keep my on council. Sport Pilothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04862280966739841769noreply@blogger.com