tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post7189467287531254170..comments2024-03-28T15:33:17.736-05:00Comments on Bayou Renaissance Man: Sometimes the true price of cheap pork is very highPeterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-31558788682084714112017-01-05T22:02:45.241-06:002017-01-05T22:02:45.241-06:00Peter, I have an article I would like to link you...Peter, I have an article I would like to link you but I am not sure it will post (spam filter?).<br /><br />Please google "A Tale of 2 manure spills and a loss of credibility" for an interesting article from Wisconsin on this topic and the complete lack of awareness of a source of waste spillage an order of magnitude larger than the CAFOs you are talking about here.BChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12189315938678079340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-50118443286980764872016-12-31T11:37:24.597-06:002016-12-31T11:37:24.597-06:00Quartermaster: Phil Sheridan? Who did he play guit...Quartermaster: Phil Sheridan? Who did he play guitar for? ;)urbane legendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12699110758399432397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-37997479989932116592016-12-31T11:03:03.961-06:002016-12-31T11:03:03.961-06:00Sounds like a lot of hogwashSounds like a lot of hogwashChucklesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-50793764206777654932016-12-31T10:00:27.143-06:002016-12-31T10:00:27.143-06:00Peter, ask me about pig farms and water next weeke...Peter, ask me about pig farms and water next weekend. If you really, really want to know.<br /><br />LittleRed1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-57383321861191172552016-12-31T07:07:27.824-06:002016-12-31T07:07:27.824-06:00Peter--the prudent practice is to take the article...Peter--the prudent practice is to take the article with a grain of salt. SOME of it is true, and SOME of it is propaganda.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-6039995926916979592016-12-31T06:56:03.920-06:002016-12-31T06:56:03.920-06:00i wondered how pork could be so inexpensive.
now i...i wondered how pork could be so inexpensive.<br />now i know.<br />i cannot digest it but i won't buy it any more for the rest of the clan.<br /> CAFO's and all cruelty are some of many stenches in the nostrils of God.<br />there will be judgement.<br />cruelty is unnecessary in meat production or any other endeavor.<br />there must be silver crossing palms. what other reason could there be?deb harveyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05110992898072146282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-10580144648199049972016-12-31T05:33:59.118-06:002016-12-31T05:33:59.118-06:00@sdharms: How do I contact you? I'm close en...@sdharms: How do I contact you? I'm close enough to you that I can make the trip. Please send me an e-mail with contact details (my address is in my blog profile - see 'About me' in the sidebar).<br /><br />Thanks!Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-17445070697852785262016-12-31T05:01:20.060-06:002016-12-31T05:01:20.060-06:00buy from a small producer. How do you find one? Th...buy from a small producer. How do you find one? The local pig show. I am serious. Duncan OKLA has one of the biggest pig shows in the country. 80 miles north of the Texas line in SW OKLA. I am a small producer of beef in that area. We are humane, and sustainable using natural grasses. Our cattle are gentle and happy. Farm tours available by appointment. Local and small pig farmers are the same. Take good care of your animals and they take care of you. sdharmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12667962395368822004noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-6920027393628523432016-12-31T03:41:49.215-06:002016-12-31T03:41:49.215-06:00More and more these large operations are not what ...More and more these large operations are not what you would consider farmer owned. They're either wholly owned by an agrigiant corporation or a producer who doesn't live anywhere near the operation. When there are farmer owned hog operations they're many times just contracted to an agrigiant corporation. The corporation fronts the money at a low interest rate to build the facility and get the operation going or outright builds the place and the farmer provides the land and gets a cut or a payment for managing the operation. The whole damn business is dirty in more ways than one. These huge confinements at one time at least provided work to locals but more and more they import foreigners to man the facilities even providing housing. I know of several instances where local people were directed to train mexicans and other foreigners as their replacements via agrigiant supplied interpreters. I won't get too specific for legal reasons but the floor workers basically said F you and the foreign replacements were trained by supervisors who had been assured their jobs were safe and that they'd be running the foreigners. It wasn't long before the supervisors and managers were replaced by foreigners and the agrigiant cut the locals out entirely. As a farmer myself I'm loathe to tell anyone what they can or can't do on their own land but these CAFOs are an exception. I'm hardly averse to the odors of livestock as I have stock 50 yards from my house but a large CAFO is something else entirely. They're large scale heavy industry with industrial levels of pollutants and need to be treated as such. There also needs to be a breakup of the large meatpacking and agrigiant corporations. They should be forbidden from from being involved in production in any way. Foreign companies shouldn't be allowed to own agricultural land or food production facilities in the US. Owners of CAFOs should be required to live on site. You can run a large hog operation with really minimal off site environmental impact but there isn't much of an incentive to do so at the moment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-11915785265248160702016-12-30T21:14:40.979-06:002016-12-30T21:14:40.979-06:00Yes, find a local farmer and find a way to purchas...Yes, find a local farmer and find a way to purchase your pork, beef, and chicken directly from them. Go see how the animals are raised and treated. I won't go down the path of how animals 'feel' about things but the reality of a 'hard' vs 'easy' life makes a big difference in the quality of the final product. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-48715544938259895362016-12-30T19:52:19.595-06:002016-12-30T19:52:19.595-06:00Shades of "The Jungle" all over again......Shades of "The Jungle" all over again....drjimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05647484115197408897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-51952570330328880062016-12-30T18:16:00.584-06:002016-12-30T18:16:00.584-06:00The Natural Resource Conservation Service (what wa...The Natural Resource Conservation Service (what was once known as the Soil Conservation Service) has as one of its functions helping farmers deal with agricultural waste, particularly animal waste. I had a good friend who was an Engineering Technician with them in Perry County Ohio, specifically, Somerset (he got himself thrown out of a bar in Charlottesville, VA when he drunkenly owned up to being from the hometown of Phil Sheridan), and one of his primary functions was dealing with animal waste. He told me that swine operations had some of the hardest streams to deal with. I never got the reason from him as the last time I saw him we got interrupted and I've not seen him since I had to leave SE Ohio.<br /><br />having been downwind of a couple of swine operations, I could well believe that it could be hard to deal with.<br /><br />When I lived in SE Ohio, there were pork and beef farmers that sold directly to consumers and supplied the product already wrapped and ready for the freezer. It was a very economical way of filling the freezer too.Quartermasternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-4878373343844512242016-12-30T18:01:29.066-06:002016-12-30T18:01:29.066-06:00Peter .. You live in small town TX now .. Ask aro...Peter .. You live in small town TX now .. Ask around at the coffee shop and buy your pork on the hoof from a local . Include delivery to a local packing house in the deal . I am sure the cabal there in town would split pork and beef if done that way .Farm.Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02383613366815582389noreply@blogger.com