tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post7363562297294222299..comments2024-03-28T07:02:04.892-05:00Comments on Bayou Renaissance Man: So much for CecilPeterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-5722531909752119612016-02-25T00:54:45.163-06:002016-02-25T00:54:45.163-06:00I remember this pointless ruckus being raised last...I remember this pointless ruckus being raised last year and felt little more than contempt for those banshees wearing human skin all over the web. They had more angry things to say about that doctor than Daesh engaging in modern day sex slavery. Idiots. What astounded me was the unbelievable hypocrisy going on with those Cecil loving types. A well known lion dies? Outrage. Impoverished Africans dying from starvation and malaria? Not a single peep. Africans being eaten by lions? Most of those folks blame the people. It's not like lions have been eating people for millenia or something like that.<br /><br />I've never been outside the US (minimum wage has that effect) but even I knew this sort of thing would result. I notice again and again that those who advocate the banning of hunting simply don't understand what Africa is like and how harsh it is for those living there. They live in bubbles of ignorance and any attempt to sway them is usually met by condemnation for horrible humans engaging in blood sport. Jeez, these are often the same folks complaining about racism. Except race doesn't matter as much when it comes to the environment it would seem. <br /><br />I've heard the 95% human culling idea too. I'd love to see them try to implement that though. There's just one wee problem with it: Us hunters have all the guns and know how to use 'em!<br />Eccentric Cowboyhttp://eccentriccowboy.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-81320763926242407582016-02-24T23:52:53.782-06:002016-02-24T23:52:53.782-06:00Couple issues - cui bono - that tend to complicate...Couple issues - cui bono - that tend to complicate a utilitarian analysis - back to the English Enclosure Acts and the treatment of highland Scots (see e.g. Battlefield Band "Ship of Tears" for the application of tears to folks beyond the Cherokee). <br /><br />It's perfectly simple to crop herds of game, zebras and all the antelope and giraffes and elephants and rhino and all the predators too as a renewable resource without the herds ever being gone. Slaughter white tail and slaughter American bison are common in different places in this country. American Bison are hard to fence though.<br /><br />Who gets the food and who gets the money can alter the outcome beyond a first level analysis. AID long long ago demonstrated by cropping hundreds of thousands of animals - mostly with a Garand and military ball and the work both killing and weighing and results have long been something nobody wants to talk about - that an existing balanced ecosystem properly cropped produces far more meat than say wiping out the ecosystem and substituting a monoculture cattle ranch. <br /><br />That is cattle all compete with each other for feed but giraffe and antelope mostly don't so the feed to meat total is more with an existing ecosystem. What the balanced ecosystem produces is food - bush meat - for the cities but not dollars from McDonald's hamburgers for the new class of aristocrats who claim the land and ranches.<br /><br />Which only goes to reinforce the point that any perishable resource that doesn't bring in dollars will be replaced by one that does - even if it causes suffering among the people who lived on the land.clark myershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04087642063181620051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-52816244303310584082016-02-24T19:03:21.662-06:002016-02-24T19:03:21.662-06:00Magical thinking. I know that calling such mindles...Magical thinking. I know that calling such mindless emotionalism "thinking" is a misnomer, but I'm not the one who came up with the label. Fits, though.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08015544320906146949noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-45543017664196148432016-02-24T18:55:02.130-06:002016-02-24T18:55:02.130-06:00Peter you hit it right on the head. The religious...Peter you hit it right on the head. The religious environmental types oppose any attempt to get economic gain from a resource, and fail to provide any alternative for the economy of the people of that area. Usually if pressed, they'll mutter something about tourism, but ultimately their "caring" hearts have no room for the welfare of their fellow man. After all, they already have a comfortable life. All that remains for them is to rid the world of things they dislike and the impoverishment of millions of people is an acceptable price if it pushes forth their narcissistic need to feel virtuous.Brian H.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-85292663298466301042016-02-24T10:41:19.936-06:002016-02-24T10:41:19.936-06:00In my undergrad days, there was always the convers...In my undergrad days, there was always the conversation-killer who chimed in about the immorality of animal population management, immediately followed by dreams of human population management. My old academic advisor used to say that it was a great way to see which students were worth investing time in. <br /> The loudest of those voices in graduate school, however, are now, in their early 40's, the upper middle-management in NOAA. They finally found a soapbox.Paul, Dammit!https://www.blogger.com/profile/02264872375942355609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-86515090219896498012016-02-24T09:15:19.656-06:002016-02-24T09:15:19.656-06:00When the lions overpopulate the next effect is tha...When the lions overpopulate the next effect is that they go outside the Conservancy areas (lions don't read maps very well) where they will conflict with the people. The lions will either feed on the people's livestock or the people themselves. <br /><br />I think that the moonbats we're talking about would consider lions feeding on the people a feature and not a bug. You know there have been many of the enviro-weenies calling for killing off 95% of the human race; those are the moderates. The really ambitious greenies want 98% of people killed off. Curiously, they never seem to off themselves first. They want other people to die.<br /><br />SiGraybeardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00280583031339062059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-41442671542627515412016-02-24T09:10:43.300-06:002016-02-24T09:10:43.300-06:00Rolf,
You said what has been on my mind for a lon...Rolf,<br /> You said what has been on my mind for a long time- <br /> It is impossible to explain or have logical discussion with those who so poorly understand the world. What has passed for "education" in the US has only made it worse.<br /> They are filled with passionate ignorance.ravennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-72113513039445793522016-02-24T08:59:10.812-06:002016-02-24T08:59:10.812-06:00It has always been that the best conservationists ...It has always been that the best conservationists have been the hunters. They have a better understanding of the balance required by nature. Peripatetic Engineerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08508035944158746797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-40639199110413271052016-02-24T08:30:37.115-06:002016-02-24T08:30:37.115-06:00There you go getting all factual, and harshing the...There you go getting all factual, and harshing their mellow. Don't you know it's not facts that matter, it is feelz, and if you can signal the right virtues of caring? <br /><br />At this rate, next you'll be telling us that we can't teach lion to act like proper vegans!<br /><br />Sorry, channeling a leftists for a moment, there. The problem is that trying to explain what you just posted, and having it understood by the typical anti-hunting zelot, requires they have an understanding of economics, human psychology, history, biology, and ecology that is not just WAY past a sound-bite, it is beyond most of their grasp even will a set of year long college courses. OTOH, to you average redneck / hunter it's no more than common sense.Rolfhttp://www.thestarscameback.comnoreply@blogger.com