tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post8360151225437855374..comments2024-03-18T23:21:40.731-05:00Comments on Bayou Renaissance Man: Paris and the pain of being humanPeterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-57452318819376970242016-03-22T14:25:02.884-05:002016-03-22T14:25:02.884-05:00Three things the more homogeneous your society is...Three things the more homogeneous your society is the more stable and healthy it is.<br /><br />1st Most societies in the Middle East being clan based can never be homogeneous though even when ethnically and doctrinally identical <br /><br /><br />2nd Islam has never coexisted with the West. It doesn't mean that they all have to be destroyed but the best thing for both of us is to stay far away from each other. Moderate Muslims are not our problem but they cannot be allowed in the West in any case. No Africans, No Muslims much less problems. If they decide to show up, we deport them. No exceptions<br /><br />3rd Yes we can destroy Islam if we wish. We lack the will to use our technology to this end or to even get rid of the leaders who bring these people into our lands but if we did have the will some kind of multi disciplinary Manhattan Project to this goal would be the end of pretty much all of them. A.B. Prospernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-15446730274713840452015-12-11T10:36:09.846-06:002015-12-11T10:36:09.846-06:00"They were - and still are - killing 'kaf..."They were - and still are - killing 'kaffirs', unbelievers . . . not human beings."<br /><br />I am moved to consider just who is teaching whom to consider us 'kaffirs'. Reziachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04423576984195780490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-25580050851850575112015-11-16T19:15:20.666-06:002015-11-16T19:15:20.666-06:00@Hansjörg: You know it, and I know it, and anyone ...@Hansjörg: You know it, and I know it, and anyone with a couple of brain cells to rub together knows it . . . but apparently some of them don't.<br /><br />If anyone subscribes to the theory that they can kill every Muslim and thereby solve the problem of how to relate to them or how they relate to the rest of the world, that makes the individual(s) concerned potentially as great a terrorist as any member of ISIS or Al Qaeda; potentially a greater mass murderer than Hitler or Stalin or Mao.<br /><br />Some criticize me for adopting a Christian moral foundation in my approach to the problem. That's their right, and I have no objection to their proposing an alternate moral foundation - but they won't state clearly what it is. What underlies their approach? What's their world view? If it's not explicitly stated, we can only guess . . . and some of our guesses, based on what they actually say, must inevitably be extremely uncomfortable. Disagreement is one thing. Alternatives are acceptable. Requesting or advocating the killing of those who think differently is not. Genocide is not.<br /><br />One wonders - if they'd kill as readily as ISIS, would they enslave the women of an entire people like the Yazidis as well? If mass murder is OK with them, what about mass rape and sexual torture? After all, the latter can hardly be worse, in moral terms . . .Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-82675399950285284922015-11-16T18:05:38.303-06:002015-11-16T18:05:38.303-06:00Peter,
I once read a novel "Wild Fire" ...Peter,<br /><br />I once read a novel "Wild Fire" by Nelson DeMille. The story is about some american conspirators planning to detonate nuclear warheads in two american cities and put the blame on muslims. Their objective was to trigger an existing kind of "SIOP"-plan (said Code Wild Fire), to bring thermonuclear death to all muslim cities to end all muslim terrorism for good. Of course the protagonist kills them all and stops the ticking time-bomb. <br />I enjoyed this book, but I was unable to imagine that successful, intelligent, wealthy men from a rich and powerful nation could be so crazy to devise a plan of absolute evil.<br />Hm. <br />Having read the comments to your outstanding blog, I am now able to imagine anything...<br /><br />May you, the christian, please tell me, the atheist, one thing: <br /><br />Are these men, most of them living in the US and being christians, as I may assume, aware that they sound like the antichrist himself? Did they ever visit a church? Did they ever get the slightest idea what made Jesus' teachings so different from Judaism and lslam?<br /><br />Hansjörg <br /><br /><br />hdemandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02498596685662877804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-35388917837513324662015-11-15T19:02:23.963-06:002015-11-15T19:02:23.963-06:00I'm not pushing for it but we if we were willi...I'm not pushing for it but we if we were willing to accept the consequences we do have the technology to pretty much eliminate Islamic terrorism.<br /><br />We'd have to do some very horrible things our consciences would not allow and as the old saw goes, we'd make a wasteland and call it peace but its a moral problem, not a technical one.<br /><br />A.B. Prospernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-68254403079737924892015-11-15T18:58:59.693-06:002015-11-15T18:58:59.693-06:00@Anonymous at 11:18 AM: No, it's not. I don&...@Anonymous at 11:18 AM: No, it's not. I don't expect to have to put on a uniform again, but I have no doubt that there's a better than fair chance of being forced to confront evil again. It's active, looking for targets, and we're all in the line of fire. Whether it be terrorism, or 'normal' crime, or any other form of evil, it's got to be confronted and defeated. If necessary, count me in.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-7129880444022415722015-11-15T16:32:17.354-06:002015-11-15T16:32:17.354-06:00Peter,
In your post you say "We're going...Peter,<br /><br />In your post you say "We're going to treat him with the same suspicion and exaggerated caution that we would a live, possibly armed hand-grenade. He's asked for it, so we're going to give it to him.". I believe that you are wrong in a critical way. We are not saying "He's asked for it." we are saying that there is a good chance that he is a threat and we will treat him as such. This is not a matter of justice "He asked for it." this is a matter of self-defense "He is a likely threat". I just hope that it does not come to "It is conclusively presumed that he is a threat. Shoot him."Scott Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13095059505661303611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-23880938325033601532015-11-15T14:30:41.940-06:002015-11-15T14:30:41.940-06:00BadTux - the Constitution isn't a suicide pact...BadTux - the Constitution isn't a suicide pact, and it's been widely ignored by the US government when it isn't convenient since the 1930s. Our founders said, in so many words, that it was a constitution that was designed for a largely self-regulating and Christian people, and unsuited for others. When we let in large numbers of "others" that are neither Christian nor very good at self-regulating, that's a problem. And rather than sling around ad hominems "you're just like Stalin and hitler, you commie/nazi," how about you make a proposal, offer your own solution, that will both work and be "acceptable" by the majority of the people that want to keep the nation economically functional and relatively free? <br /><br />Hmmm?<br /><br />We're all waiting.Rolfhttp://www.thestarscameback.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-72014711933704919782015-11-15T13:23:08.895-06:002015-11-15T13:23:08.895-06:00Bad Tux,
when it comes to answering a certain kin...Bad Tux,<br /><br />when it comes to answering a certain kind of comments, you and your sarcasm are simply priceless. Congratulations. If english were my first language, I would enter a friendly contest against you. :-)<br /><br />To highlight an aspect that was not mentioned in this discussion: victimhood.<br /><br />It needs a lot of it, real or imagined, to become as jaundiced and acrimonious as these commenters are.<br />You find a lot of this frame of mind in extremists all over the world. "THEY take everything from us". "We are lied to by the government and the press". "Nobody listens to us". From PEGIDA ("Patriots against the islamisation of the Occident" - that's what they call themselves here - serious!") to extreme SJW's or Eco-Terrorists ("The earth is dying", "More and more people are starving", "THEY want us to buy their GMO..."), and - of course, islamic fundamentalists ("THEY kill our islamic women and kids", "THEY want us as slaves") it's always the same. They feel they are victims. Of course there are lots of things to improve, but nobody ever seems to notice the worldwide positive developments. <br /><br /><br />Hansjörg hdemandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02498596685662877804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-24783538205613634822015-11-15T12:16:05.796-06:002015-11-15T12:16:05.796-06:00Interesting suggestions, McChuck. Sounds a lot lik...Interesting suggestions, McChuck. Sounds a lot like how Josef Stalin treated Islam (and all other religion, for that matter). It also sounds a lot like the Knights of the White Camelia of the KKK when they say mixing of the races (and religions) is the cause of all our problems. Great company you're hanging out with there. I'm sure you feel proud.<br /><br />Your proposals certainly couldn't be done in the United States, not unless we tore up the Constitution and its guarantees of freedom of religion. But hey, the Constitution is just a piece of paper, right? Same deal with the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights, hey, it's just a fundamental founding document of the European Union, it's not like it's important or anything. Let's tear it all up and impose Christianity upon people at gunpoint, because that's the way to deal with other countries imposing Islam at gunpoint. We won't be safe until we're just as evil as they are.<br /><br />Alrighty, then!<br /><br />[/snark]<br />BadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-90683937596260604402015-11-15T11:18:47.082-06:002015-11-15T11:18:47.082-06:00I wonder, never having met Peter Grant, if this ar...I wonder, never having met Peter Grant, if this article is his post-traumatic stress syndrome coming to the fore? As in, "I've done my share of war-fighting, include me out."<br /><br />Even though there is no conceivable scenario where he would be called up.<br /><br />Submitted respectfully. Not meant as a comment questioning Peter's character or bravery.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-90168706879836909112015-11-15T10:48:50.484-06:002015-11-15T10:48:50.484-06:00We could always hire the Chinese to take care of t...We could always hire the Chinese to take care of the necessary heavy lifting; of course eventually we would have the problem of what to do with the Chinese...<br />Been back and forth and lived in the ME since '83. Every where except Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan. Have muz friends all over the area. But the short reality there (and here) is that the only thing respected there is the Strong Man.gov. Democracy, Arab Spring(HAHAHAHAHAHAHA), is not and option. Family, tribal, and intra-tribal is THE way of life for these people. Even Abdullah II, King in Jordan, goes out into the desert to hang with his Bedouin buds regularly. 0007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-21809352313984171832015-11-15T08:53:01.809-06:002015-11-15T08:53:01.809-06:00Simple, though not easy, 4 step process to peace w...Simple, though not easy, 4 step process to peace with Islam.<br /><br />Step 1. Refuse all immigration by Muslims, from whatever point of origin.<br /><br />Step 2. Ban the practice and proselytization of Islam as incompatible with and in direct opposition to national values and survival. <br /><br />Step 3. Identify and expel all Muslims. The opinion of the point of reception does not matter. Drop them off at sea 7 miles from the coast of a Muslim country, if necessary. (I'll be gracious, and say give them a life raft and point out the right direction to go.)<br /><br />Step 4. Implement and ruthlessly enforce a containment strategy. No Muslim may depart their nations or territories by land, sea, or air for any reason, except carefully controlled ambassadors (without family members).<br /><br />This is how peace may be achieved between us. Good fences make for good neighbors.<br /><br />I will disagree with you, Peter, and say that it is actually possible to exterminate them all. I do agree, however, that it would be extraordinarily difficult and wasteful. Separating us is, to my mind, a much better strategy.McChuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10243337792601085456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-62736723511126286442015-11-15T06:18:33.403-06:002015-11-15T06:18:33.403-06:00So which Muslim country is that beacon of hope lov...So which Muslim country is that beacon of hope love tolerance and economic prosperity for the rest of the world to emulate? You seem to pine over it. There isn't one. Not one. Nothing comes from Islamic cultures. Medicines, computers, cars, inventions for mankind, nada. Wait, I'm wrong, they do constantly innovate means of blowing up and shooting innocents who don't follow their Allan. That speaks volumes of just what kind of evil dwells within Islam. Those who choose to be affiliated with such intolerance and evil should be shunned. While governments still talk as you do, thinking that those who follow Islam are human, it prevents us from doing what needs to be done. The west needs to completely separate itself from all things Islam if there is to be peace. Of course there is another option...live life knowing that muslimswill blow people up in your country as a matter of due course. You must also know that they may blow you and your family away today too. To hell with that. That's not a way for HUMANS to live. I prefer Mayberry USA and that means no muslims in our midst.flyshooterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09708636669881706554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-79202746461577870022015-11-15T03:38:31.579-06:002015-11-15T03:38:31.579-06:00@PeterW at 2:27 AM: I understand your concern at ...@PeterW at 2:27 AM: I understand your concern at not wanting to tar all soldiers with the same brush of criminal conduct. I fully agree, with this caveat: I think it's possible for almost any soldier to be 'driven over the edge' by the brutality of war. I've seen that in person, where the most civilized of men became 'worn down' by what they saw and experienced, until after a year or two they were themselves doing things that had shocked, disgusted and nauseated them at the start of their combat exposure.<br /><br />I think St. Thomas Aquinas had it right when he said (and I paraphrase from memory) that we cannot begin to understand grace until we understand that we, personally, are capable of the worst sins that it's possible to imagine, no matter who we are or how 'holy' we consider ourselves to be. In my own life, I've not (yet) been driven to those extremes: yet, there have been enough times that I know I could be driven there by the right (or wrong) combination of events, circumstances and pressures. I don't say that lightly.<br /><br />I don't wish to condemn all soldiers. I've been one, and I have many colleagues and friends who have been and are military men of the highest quality. Yet, even for myself, even for them, I have to acknowledge that there are depths we dare not plumb. My Lai did not happen because evil men planned and plotted it. It happened because otherwise good men were driven over the edge. In history, there have been many My Lais . . .Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-6563198270152546542015-11-15T02:53:55.708-06:002015-11-15T02:53:55.708-06:00It is also a false dichotomy to argue that we can ...It is also a false dichotomy to argue that we can simply divide Muslims into two discrete groups - fundamentalists and moderates....... No more than we could divide Germany of the late 1930s into Nazis and those who hated Nazis. That would be to ignore the more than 30% of Germans who voted for the Nazis, and those who were prepared to accept the Nazis for their achievements even while privately deploring some of their methods.<br /><br />Take a country like mine - Australia - with a significant Muslim minority. It is easy to claim that they must be all "moderate" on the grounds that very few of them have engaged in acts of overt terrorism. However surveys indicate that so etching like half of them want Sharia law. That means that these "moderates" are prepared to see women stoned for being raped or whipped for the "crimes" of driving a car. Going berserk with an AK is not the only way to engage in violence and oppression.<br />These same "moderates" invited, funded and supported a Grand Mufti who stated very clearly that women who did not dress in the approved fashion deserved to be raped. Getting the community leaders to condemn acts of terrorism is like squeezing blood out of a stone. The majority of the effort toward reconciliation and understanding has come from the non-Muslim government.<br /><br />Tell me again how these people are the victims of terrorism and no possible threat to us?PeterWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-82903719469366048952015-11-15T02:27:29.124-06:002015-11-15T02:27:29.124-06:00Peter....
I recall you writing with a considerabl...Peter....<br /><br />I recall you writing with a considerable degree of insight about the mentality of violent criminals. You wrote that every single one of the excused themselves in so e fashion, no matter how horrible their crime and how undeserving the victim.<br /><br />It would be far more accurate - and I suggest, more honest - to accept that terrorists are evil people, just as were those violent criminals. As a pastor, you know only too well the human inclination toward evil and the desperate need that we have of both moral codes and the restraining work of the Holy Spirit.<br /><br />I think that you should also be very careful lest you do a great many soldiers an injustice by attempting to excuse those evil men. Many of the men in my family have been soldiers. So are a number of my friends, including currently serving front-line troops. None of them are perfect, but it is grossly defamatory to lump them all in together as rapists, looters and murderers. Beware lest you commit exactly the same sin that you warn against, except against our own rather than Muslims.<br /><br />I feel deeply sorry for those Muslims who see no way out of a violent, contradictory religion. However I also believe in personal responsibility and that includes the responsibility to examine what we permit ourselves to believe. As long as Muslims shut their eyes to the behaviour and pronouncements of the "prophet" that they follow, they are endorsing those who follow the example of Mohammed.<br /><br />That is your problem. <br />Islamic terrorists ARE following the example of Mohammed. The papal legate that you quoted, was NOT following the example and teachings of Christ.PeterWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-42959246169103112792015-11-15T01:38:38.805-06:002015-11-15T01:38:38.805-06:00Another anon
Us direct genocide is 99.99% a pipe ...Another anon<br /><br />Us direct genocide is 99.99% a pipe dream. The changes in the us to allow it to happen would be massive. It would be a true mobilization of the us that has not happened since ww2. And when the us fights with a Jacksonian attitude, it's ugly. See Meade of American interest essay to explain Jacksonian.<br /><br />It's an ideological struggle of the enlightenment vs a medieval attitude.<br /><br />We defeated communism, another nasty ideology without genocide. And without direct war.<br /><br />Unfortunately the us is Mia at best (islamaphobia) in the ideology war. <br /><br />The Dutch are doing some interesting things to push their culture with Moslem immigrants.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-58426089192590065842015-11-15T00:44:06.320-06:002015-11-15T00:44:06.320-06:00You yourself said you don't know what to do - ...You yourself said you don't know what to do - but until you do have a viable solution to offer, don't be too quick to shout down other possible solutions, because the longer Europe waits, the worse any imposed solution will be. <br /><br />*sigh* Please stop putting words in my mouth. I did NOT say that 10% are actively trying to kill us right now. I said about 10% want to, as in, they support the killing those that won't convert or submit. <br />See <a href="http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf" rel="nofollow">This Pew Study</a> which says on page 53 that 8% of US muslims think that suicide bombings against civilian targets is often / sometimes OK, and it it much higher in other nations. A *LOT* of them support it. Most are not actively doing it, but helping fund it, offering moral support, and a steady supply of cannon fodder for feeding the front lines. A few from here, a few from there, and you have an unending stream. <br /><br />Islam has a long and storied history of treating all non-muslims as "other", and many places actively promote genocide against Jews. (hopefully I don't need to cite sources on that - too many to list). The Hindu Kush is named that for the mountain of Hindu bones (~80 million) that the muslims stacked up there over a century during their original eastward push. They seem to be OK with genocide.<br /><br />The mix of tribalism, polygamy, massive corruption and no real rule of law (beyond sharia) in most of the muslim world, Islam's view of fate and "Allah's will" that allows them to not feel any need to take personal responsibility for their actions, and "othering" of all non-mulsims, guarantees a constant stream of disaffected young men with no prospects for a job or wife, and therefore no need to put down roots or build a business or be a stable member of a household or society. jihad and dieing for islam is actually their best option - which says a lot about their culture. But their cultural problems does not impose any obligation to help on more productive cultures (such as ours). <br /><br />The Palestinians in the camps were/are used as political pawns by the surrounding MUSLIM and (mostly) ARAB nations, and with UN funding based on number of children they were actively encouraged to breed like rabbits with the expectation of a "right of return," whereupon they could vote the Jews into the sea. It wasn't the West that made the camps hell-holes - it was the surround muslim and Arab culture that treated them as an "other" tribe to be used.<br /><br />They do not generally respect western laws, rights, or work ethic. They do, however, respect strength. They see out acceptance of diversity as an unmitigated weakness that they can exploit.<br /><br />Solutions: Do not allow ANY government subsidy of an immigrant. Ever. for things like SS if they have been here a while, they can never get more back than they paid in. If they seek opportunity, let them earn it. Deport any and all illegal alien criminals on a slow boat to the farthest port in their home nation; repeat offenders can be dropped off halfway back. Do not grant citizenship to anyone that ever entered the nation illegally or under false pretense, nor to their anchor-babies. Declare islam to not be a religion, but a prohibited totalitarian political party with religious trappings.<br /><br />Exterminate ISIS? I'm down with that. But the only way that will happen is if we make it clear to their financial backers (Saudi, et al) that it will be downright dangerous for THEM to continue the support. Think Barbary pirates writ large. Killing the cannon fodder is a fine start, but misses the deeper root causes of an utterly dysfunctional "civilization." Wait until the Arab oil money runs out - then they will have generations of people used to living the high life, but with no skills, no money, no jobs, no industry, no resources, no farming, no water, no schools, and a hugely inflated sense of self-worth. THAT'S when the real storm hits.Rolfhttp://www.thestarscameback.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-11389831909401140602015-11-15T00:24:40.537-06:002015-11-15T00:24:40.537-06:00Yeppers, Anon recommends genocide as the solution....Yeppers, Anon recommends genocide as the solution. Yessirree, genocide. You know who else recommended genocide as the solution? Adolph Hitler. Adolph Hitler recommended genocide as the solution. You know who else recommended genocide as the solution? Josef Stalin. Josef Stalin had a saying, "no people, no problem." <br /><br />Yeppers, we should all rush right now to put ourselves on the same side as Adolph Hitler and Josef Stalin. Because they were moral paragons who should be emulated, yessirree. <br /><br />Meanwhile, observing that the rise of radical Islam seems to be connected to the rise in oil wealth after 1973 which in turn is connected to Wahhabism, a Saudi sect that appears to have about 5 million members total worldwide and which is the inspiration / core membership of ISIS, certainly *is* useful. Ironically, we appear to be paying at the pump for the same terrorism that we're supposedly fighting. Funny, that. Absolutely hilarious. BadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-862985610532050672015-11-14T23:49:25.638-06:002015-11-14T23:49:25.638-06:00Another anon
Wahhabism has been feeding the curre...Another anon<br /><br />Wahhabism has been feeding the current medievalist attitude that is reflected in Islam powered by the gulf funded madras (schools) and mosques around the world. And why has this only appeared in the last 40 years?<br /><br />Oil wealth - exploded after 1973<br />Siege go the Karbala scared the Saudis so the funded more religious stuff.<br />Pakistan's Zia using Islam <br />Failure of Arab leadership<br />Social media<br />Perceived success in Afghanistan against soviets by jihadi forces <br />Use of Jews / israil as a scapegoat for government failures in Middlle set<br />Brainwashing of population through mass media in me, especially Palestine. Based on soviet learned model.<br />KGB anti israil / Jewish propaganda<br />Nazi anti semitism exported into Middle East <br />Exploring birth rate in Middle East<br />Conspiracy mindset in Middle East <br /><br />Solution to allow radical Islam to burn itself out, and not us?<br /><br />Allow a 30 years war style war between Shia and Sunni that is basically underway? <br />Boots on the ground?<br />Stop immigration?<br />Stricter scrutiny of me visas / immigrants?<br />Create new countries to fix Sykes-Picot map? Kurdistan, Druze, Kurdistan, north Sunni Iraq and Syria, coastal alewife?<br />Promote the break up of multi ethnic Iran?<br />Promote regime chsnge in Iran?<br />Partner with Russia in the Middle East?<br />Support democracy in turkey? <br />The us to identify radical Islam as an enemy?<br /><br />Diplomad 2.0 has wriitten much on the ME mess. And the religion of peace.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-21776198120225835412015-11-14T23:33:44.410-06:002015-11-14T23:33:44.410-06:00The tendency to dehumanize the opponent is as old ...The tendency to dehumanize the opponent is as old as mankind.<br /><br />The issue in the current conflict is simple....most religions and<br />belief structures will co exist with other religions and beliefs. <br />Maybe not perfectly or easily but at least their is an effort, a<br />fundamental creed that we should all 'just get along'. NOT SO WITH<br />ISLAM. Islam and it's adherents are commanded to kill, enslave or convert EVERYONE....EVERYWHERE. No exceptions. Any muslim not willing to go along with this command is an apostate...to be killed.<br /><br />There simply can be NO compromise, no peace with Islam...by it's own<br />admission peace with Islam is not possible. That leaves only two<br />alternatives. We kill EVERY MUSLIM on the planet or THEY kill all of us. End of story. That's it. <br /><br />And there are only TWO TYPES of muslims. <br />The fanatical ones who seek to kill us and<br />the moderate ones who want the fanatical ones<br />to kill us. <br /><br />Any other type of 'muslim' is an apostate....to be <br />killed even before us kefirs'.Dannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-55497671678967125022015-11-14T23:16:06.491-06:002015-11-14T23:16:06.491-06:00My apologies. I tend to suffer an excess of snark ...My apologies. I tend to suffer an excess of snark when people blithely suggest genocide as the answer. I suspect it's the coonass in me. (Yeah, I'm from Louisiana, why you axe?). <br />BadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-6665305612700679862015-11-14T23:13:58.408-06:002015-11-14T23:13:58.408-06:00People, please keep your comments polite and civil...People, please keep your comments polite and civilized. I don't want to shut down this discussion, but I will if people can't remember their manners.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-74160267013110676062015-11-14T23:07:45.155-06:002015-11-14T23:07:45.155-06:00You do realize that 10% of 1.5 billion is 150 mill...You do realize that 10% of 1.5 billion is 150 million, right? Where, exactly, are these 150 million Muslims that you claim want to exterminate us? The most generous credible estimate of ISIS that I've seen is around 30,000 fighters and maybe 100,000 supporters, they managed to chew up the Iraqi Army because the Iraqi Army had been hollowed out by nepotism and incompetence, not because they outnumbered them. If there's 150 million radicals, why doesn't ISIS have a million soldiers? Plus there's plenty of evidence that ISIS wants to create an Islamic caliphate on top of a whole lot of Muslim bodies. They've pretty much stated the only reason they attacked France and Russia was in retaliation for French and Russian airstrikes against their army trying to create that caliphate, they haven't mentioned any desire to exterminate the rest of the world. They could be lying, of course, but (shrug). What can I say, I gotta go with what evidence actually exists, not bullshit pulled out of my ass. Just how I roll, yo.<br /><br />As far as refugees, I haven't the foggiest notion what to do with the refugees. I suppose you could put them into refugee camps, like the surrounding Arab states did with the Palestinians after 1948. That didn't work out too well for those Arab states though in the end, in case you forget what happened as refugees in those camps became radicalized over the years by decades of being prisoners in all but name despite having committed no crime except that of fleeing violence... oh wait, I know! You could set up machine guns on the border and start shooting them! Yeah, that'd be a solution too. Except you seem to forget about why Nazi Germany set up gas chambers. Seems that they had a shortage of soldiers willing to murder unarmed civilians... and we're talking about Germans, who have a cultural history of obeying orders even when said orders are to commit atrocities. Even Germans had trouble with shooting unarmed civilians (though East Germany seemed to be able to find some who were willing to do so)... somehow I doubt that the Greeks, the Macedonians, the Czechs, the Hungarians, the Austrians will have any more stomach for murdering unarmed civilians.<br /><br />But hey, I know, we can just drop nuclear weapons on the entire Middle East and kill everybody! You do realize that you're talking about killing more people than Hitler did, right? But hey, it's for a good cause, right? I mean, killing more people than Hitler, that's not what *I* would like to be remembered for, but hey, I'm just one of those squishy liberals who thinks the answer to criminals committing crimes is to find the criminals and either make sure they spend the rest of their lives being sodomized in the Euro equivalent of a Supermax, or make sure they're dead. Us squishy liberals and our aversion to genocide just isn't compatible with today's modern world, we need to resurrect Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, hell, even Hitler for a good spot'o genocide, it's the modern way, wot? <br /><br />How's this for a plan -- how about we exterminate ISIS, resolve the Syrian civil war, then send all the refugees home? You down with that? Just wonderin'. Seems more humane than genocide, but hey, what can I say, it's that whole squishy liberal thing y'know...BadTuxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345749557330760251noreply@blogger.com