Saturday, August 10, 2019

Suicide??? YGTBSM!!!


So, according to news reports, Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide last night . . . while on suicide watch in prison.

Yeah.  Right.

Folks, I served as a Federal prison chaplain.  I was trained in exactly the same way as a corrections officer, alongside them in the same training institution, because there would be times when I'd have to function as one.  I know more than a little about suicide watches, and I've been exposed to my fair share of them.  You can read a little about them in this Slate article, but there's a lot more to them than that.

Basically, on suicide watch, everything and anything that can be used for self-harm is taken away from the inmate, even his clothes.  No belt.  No shoelaces.  No razor.  Only thin, brittle plastic eating utensils are provided, that can't be sharpened enough to cut human flesh, and aren't strong enough to be used as stabbing weapons.  The inmate may be issued an anti-suicide smock and an anti-suicide blanket.  The list is endless.  If the risk is considered serious enough, the inmate may be placed in a straitjacket, and/or may be under very frequent (every 15 minutes) visitation by a correction officer or nurse, or even permanent guard (i.e. someone in the room with him/her at all times).  Suffice it to say, if the suicide watch is properly and effectively administered, it's no longer possible for the inmate to commit suicide, even if he/she wants to.

Now we're expected to believe that a person:
  • accused of the most heinous offenses;
  • who was in a position to implicate any number of high-placed persons in politics, entertainment and royalty, in many countries, if he lived to provide evidence - including individuals who have, in the past, displayed a certain ruthlessness in dealing with other potential "embarrassments" of that sort;
  • who had (allegedly) attempted to commit suicide and/or had been injured previously while in custody;
  • who had been placed on suicide watch, which (in the light of the earlier incident) should have been rigorous and intensive;
. . . that person nevertheless succeeded in committing suicide last night.

The only way in which Jeffrey Epstein could have committed suicide is if the suicide watch under which he'd been placed was so inept, so inefficient, so lax, that he was able to get around it.  If that's the case, heads - multiple heads - need to roll at the prison where it happened, and in the senior administration of the corrections department(s) concerned.  Such a high-profile prisoner would certainly - under normal circumstances - have warranted the most extreme precautions, both to protect him (and the information he could have provided) and to safeguard the ongoing judicial process.  If that was not done, it was either because of an absolutely inexcusable breakdown of procedures, and failure to follow policy, in the department and institution . . . or because Epstein was allowed to kill himself.  I'm sure certain individuals would have found that a very convenient "solution" to the issues he raised.  They might even have "encouraged" him to do so.

(EDITED TO ADD:  Later reports have indicated that Epstein may not have been on suicide watch at the time of his death.  If correct, that's an even more damning indictment of the prison authorities.  If an inmate has tried to kill himself already, you don't take him off suicide watch until you're sure the danger has diminished.  That takes weeks, even months, of psychological counseling, observation, and so on - at least, it did during my prison service as chaplain.  I don't believe it's possible to reach a determination so quickly that a suicide watch was no longer warranted.  Who did so?  When?  For what reasons?)

There's also another possibility, one that no-one has yet publicly raised, but which I'm sure is at the back of everyone's mind;  namely, that the "suicide" might not have been a "suicide" at all.  God forbid that possibility - but I guaran-damn-tee you that a hell of a lot of people (including yours truly) are thinking about it.

This stinks to high heaven.

In the meantime, let us not forget that a human being is dead.  Epstein may have been a criminal, a scumbag of the worst kind . . . but his soul has still to face the same Judge that I believe all of us must one day face.  I won't deny him a prayer for mercy, because I'm a sinner, too, and I'm going to be in very great need of that mercy myself when my time comes.  May Jeffrey Epstein receive whatever forgiveness is possible, in God's grace.

Peter

28 comments:

Shell said...

I just read Lawdog's 180-degrees-different-to-yours post. You're at least willing to consider that humans are fallible and can be bought and bullied. I left him this comment. It applies more so here.

There is more than enough money and power amongst those who were part of his funtime gang to pay off and/or threaten anyone and everyone who was in charge of and/or working during that shift. The money and threats were spread around and it was a hit, or they were spread around and he was allowed to do the job himself, IMNSHO.

Uchuck the Tuchuck said...

Your last paragraph...good point, padre. Thanks for reminding me.

Old NFO said...

Money and power... Both were threatened, so Epstein had to go. The question, as you've said, is who and how...

William said...

NOTE: He was in FEDERAL custody. Do you think anyone will be fired because of this?

Stinks to high heaven.

Rick T said...

My hope is this is a psyop to get Epstein into protective custody AND let the real targets relax and start to gossip among themselves.

My fear is the Deep State just won another round....

The next 6-12 months will be interesting.

Uncle Lar said...

A little pertinent something from the BabylonBee:

ATLANTA, GA According to a report from the Centers for Disease Control released on Thursday, people with inside, compromising knowledge of Bill and Hillary Clinton's financial and political dealings are 843% more likely to commit suicide.

"We've never seen a single risk factor cause a spike of this magnitude," a CDC spokesperson told reporters. "Interestingly, in spite of their increased suicide risk, people with dirt on the Clintons rarely show any warning signs of suicide, and they never leave a suicide note."

Remarking about how abnormal it is, the spokesman again stressed the significance of the data.

"Therefore, we advise any American with detrimental information about Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, or the Clinton Foundation to forget about it as quickly as possible to avoid a greatly increased probability of taking your own life," he cautioned.

"And--I swear--that's all we know."

LindaG said...

Amen.
Yet.
Killary wins again.

Borepatch said...

The Roman Empire collapsed because ultimately too few people thought it had enough legitimacy to stand up and defend it.

MrGarabaldi said...

Hey Peter;

I tend to agree with your assessment, this smells really bad...but I am wondering...Will heads roll on this one or will the people that were so lax continue as before because their job is secure? I have seen a bunch of "Arkancide" jokes on facebook and I have posted a few of them. Joking aside this is either ineptness of a grand magnitude or malfeasance of a grand order...We will never know, they will bury the truth because it is convenient.

Bob Gibson said...

Surprise, surprise, surprise . . .

David Drake said...

namely, that the "suicide" might not have been a "suicide" at all.
Yes, very astute point!

Eric Wilner said...

Interesting factoid: someone on Twitter who claims to be a defense lawyer with no connection to the case says that the MCC, specifically, is that badly run, with "suicide watch" consisting of having other inmates keep an eye on the watchee.
I have no idea how true any of this is, but, given that his supposed bestest jail buddy was an ex-cop awaiting trial for multiple counts of murder, well, this whole thing stinks, and if it's really just business-as-usual at the MCC, perhaps the employees of the MCC need to take a turn inside the cells.

Timmeehh said...

Jeffrey Epstein, the well-connected financier accused of orchestrating a sex-trafficking ring, had been taken off suicide watch before he killed himself in a New York jail, a person familiar with the matter said.


https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/source-jeffrey-epstein-died-suicide-jail-64899030

Eric Wilner said...

Followup to my earlier comment: I found the tweet I'd referred to, plus another that tends to confirm the impression.
Purported lawyer
Purported former inmate
I vouch for neither of these, but they're alarming if true.
Oh, and taken off suicide watch just in time to commit suicide? How convenient. I wonder if four knights happened to be seen in the vicinity.

LL said...

The imminent suicide of Epstein, whether he slipped on a banana peel in his cell and his skull was pulped against the bars or he found a rope in his suicide-proof cell, was a foregone conclusion. Gone are the days of Jack Ruby when “they” sent a hit man in to shoot you in the head on video.

David Drake said...

@ Eric^^^ Great links to Twitter, thank you!

Ray - SoCal said...

Thank you Peter for adding some facts based on your experience.

Pragmatic Skeptic said...

Hmmm and what if Epstein was conveniently "disappeared". False flags become more frequent as the "losing side" becomes more desperate... Is this just another public distraction/sleight of hand to divert the public's attention from what is really happening?

Robin Datta said...

Back in JFK's time they did not have it quite so refined. Today they don't need a Jack Ruby equivalent.
As an aside, there ain't any "God" out there (or anywhere) for one's acquaintance at a future date (or anytime): there is only the Self of all selves, every self's Self. Not in time or space: time and space are in It. Neither benediction nor malediction are possible or needed.

Eric Wilner said...

Now, if I wear my tinfoil shiny-side-in....
I recall reading that Epstein's earlier Deal threw a monkey wrench into any possible future prosecution of him, and that this might affect the admissibility of any evidence seized in the raid on his home, even in prosecutions of other individuals who might be incriminated by it.
Now that he's out of the picture, I wonder how that affects the status of the evidence against his friends...?
Also, of course, I wonder whether he had a doomsday file, and if so what's become of it.

Andrew Smith said...

Losing Epstein is a majorly Bad Thing. Hopefully, though, it's enough to wake up even the dumbest of people out there.

BadFrog said...

I believe the Argentinians had a term for what happened to Epstein - 'he was suicided'.

Wayne said...

@BadFrog. The term in this case is Arkancided.

Steve Sky said...

Hi Peter,
To add to your list of things that were wrong with the "suicide watch", the cameras "malfunctioned", so there is no recording of his "suicide".

I find that awful convenient, how the "malfunction" prevents anyone from seeing what happened.

BadFrog said...

Wayne, strangely enough, the Daily Mail won't publish any comment containing that word or any reference to Christmas coming early for the Clintons. Dunno why.

NITZAKHON said...

@Borepatch:

Precisely.

Remember, they're MISSIONARIES. They TRULY BELIEVE that they can create a utopia on earth which will free mankind from hunger, war, poverty, crime, hatred, etc. Per the Cloward-Piven strategy and others, they need societal breakdown to create chaos first.

A loss of faith, and I'm damned near there, in any governmental system so that nobody's willing to fight to defend it is what they're after.

Steve said...

Scenario #3 (are we up to that number?) He was secreted out of the prison. The report I heard was "someone that looked like Epstein was taken out by..." So the eyewitness wasn't even sure.

Steve

deb harvey said...

don't know about a 'psyop' but read a thing today positing that there was a substitution and it was not epstein in the cell anything is possible but most believed he would end up suspiciously dead, and so he is
only God knows the truth
just thinking some innocents will lose their jobs and credibility over this