tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post1061602892451413283..comments2024-03-18T18:50:47.185-05:00Comments on Bayou Renaissance Man: California's public sector unions, money, and politicsPeterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-89244437790766894592018-07-15T02:57:03.228-05:002018-07-15T02:57:03.228-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13296988746956477216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-54128443974315429432018-07-15T00:18:32.161-05:002018-07-15T00:18:32.161-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13296988746956477216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-2982244831730827702018-07-14T15:33:40.864-05:002018-07-14T15:33:40.864-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13296988746956477216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-61134198456794235192018-07-14T13:46:18.607-05:002018-07-14T13:46:18.607-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13296988746956477216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-15389748999894722832018-07-14T13:40:21.435-05:002018-07-14T13:40:21.435-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13296988746956477216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-16636767236272980582018-07-14T13:20:39.372-05:002018-07-14T13:20:39.372-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13296988746956477216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-39161662790497665002018-07-13T21:38:49.414-05:002018-07-13T21:38:49.414-05:00Calling "Barbara Streisand" on that, Lar...Calling "Barbara Streisand" on that, Larry.<br />The population of CA in 1900 was 1.4M, and in 1960 it was over 15M. Now it's approaching 40M.<br />IOW, the population of the entire state of Montana in 1960 was nearly greater than the total number of actual "3rd and 4th" generation Californians extant.<br /><br />Or, you're extrapolating from 3 people. Which sounds a lot less impressive if you share that number up front.<br /><br />Math is kinda funny like that.<br /><br />Also, your state's population has only gone from 674K 969K in the last 50 years, and there were more people in CA by 1890 than the total number who have <i>ever</i> lived in all of Montana, since statehood was first granted there. Even if we counted horses as people.<br /><br />Spread over 147K mi² there (4th only to CA's 163K mi²), you could probably put every 3rd and 4th gen. native California who <i>ever</i> moved to MT into one apartment building, or two large cabins, most days.<br /><br />If all of Anaheim, Azusa, and Cucamonga (about 600K people in those four small 'burbs) moved from CA to MT tomorrow, it wouldn't even double your state's entire population.<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQq00lit_Fc<br /><br />If all of Montana moved to California, it would barely replace Anaheim, Azusa, and Cucamonga, and leave us only 39M <i>other</i> folks here to contend with. If you all moved here and lived in one town, you couldn't even vote one congressman of your very own into office, most years.<br /><br />According to that bastion of accuracy, Wikipedia, MT gets 13M <i>tourists</i> every year, yet the rate of population increase from 2000 to 2010 was only 87K, IOW almost solely by birthrate alone. Nearly 0% of those who visit there, stay there.<br /><br />By contrast, CA experienced a growth of approximately four entire MT state populations during the exact same 2000-2010 time period, (and probably another four entire MT state populations in the last ten years; we'll find out when the 2020 census comes out. And don't worry about all those "everyone is leaving CA" stories in the lamestream media; I can assure you the slack has been more than taken up by Pedro and Wang and their families in the interim.)<br /><br />So you're hardly being overrun.<br />Methinks you doth protest too much.<br />And people with larger state populations (which would be everyone but Delaware, Vermont, NH, WY, and the Dakotas) have even <i>less</i> to complain about. They've all been net senders rather than receivers to this state only going back to 1850, and they're not getting anything like what they sent back, yet. Give it a decade or so, though.<br /><br />And I'm pretty sure the number of "3rd and 4th generation Californians" who woke up to sunshine and 65 degrees most of the year their entire lives, and woke up one day and said "Let's move to a state with an annual snowfall of 25' and an average December <i>high</i> temperature of 32°, could be counted on my thumbs, since pretty much ever.<br /><br />MT is a beautiful state, no doubt. But more people drive past my house every week than the whole number of those who've ever lived there, since it before Columbus landed in the New World, and Montana belonged only to Indians and buffalo.<br /><br />But if being able to see your neighbor's porchlight through a telescope pointed at the far horizon feels crowding to a guy, I can understand your distress and consternation.<br />Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-81716213858793972192018-07-13T19:52:42.084-05:002018-07-13T19:52:42.084-05:00Hey Peter;
I was a shop steward with the UAW...Hey Peter;<br /><br /> I was a shop steward with the UAW and the founder of the UAW didn't like Public sector unions, he believed that the unions were there to put a check on the unbridled avarice of corporations...but the Public sector unions, had no check on them, they directly impacted the middle class with politicians making promises to the public sector unions that the tax payers would be on the hook for. He considered that wrong. Funny how prescient he was.MrGarabaldihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05768774166065615995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-74865356127533124672018-07-13T15:49:59.578-05:002018-07-13T15:49:59.578-05:00Yeah, we fought a war to prevent States from leavi...Yeah, we fought a war to prevent States from leaving the Union; but what would happen if we expelled a State, or at least passed a national referendum asking the State to secede?stencilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10301529692425359238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-34917816015177436422018-07-13T08:56:37.730-05:002018-07-13T08:56:37.730-05:00Ehh. The Californians I know clogging up Montana ...Ehh. The Californians I know clogging up Montana were all born and bred there, some 3rd and 4th generation Californicators. California has as much home-grown nuttery as anywhere else. It just made itself a gigantic magnet for nuts and looks, and Montana is getting far more CA expats than ever went the other way, even if they had been breeding like rabbits while in the land of nuts, fruits, and flakes. Keep Montana nice, buy a Californian a bus ticket.Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13296988746956477216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-58473389061820420912018-07-13T06:17:25.788-05:002018-07-13T06:17:25.788-05:00CA is headed to the exact same destination as IL, ...CA is headed to the exact same destination as IL, just not quite as fast.<br />First, the pensions eat the surplus, then the budget, then everything goes bust, and then the pensions go away forever.<br /><br />Municipalities, from cities to counties go broke paying 90-120% of their annual revenue just to service existing pensions, which leaves $0 for current services, like police, fire, etc., then the same thing happens to the state, and then the entire Ponzi scheme welfare state and the state budget explodes, and goes up in flames.<br /><br />And unlike Uncle, CA can't print its way out of this mess by pulling fiatbux out of thin air.<br />It's the same thing that happened to the Soviet Union, brought to you by people who admire the Soviet Union: spend money you can't replace to get less and less of what you need, until you spend everything on nothing.<br /><br />I can't wait for the day. Current projections are 10 years or less before most counties are spending 100% of all revenues just to make their pension commitments.<br /><br />Oh, and those CA retirees who moved to <i>your</i> tax haven state to retire?<br />When CA goes broke, they're gonna be <i>your</i> problem too.<br /><br />And everybody's toothless, banjo-playing kinfolk who moved here will be coming right back home at warp speed, once the state goes into meltdown.<br /><br />I really can't wait to see it:<br />The other 49 states getting paid back for all the problems caused overwhelmingly by their carpetbagging liberal idiots, and the 15M illegal aliens your congressmen and senators didn't notice, suddenly all coming to live with <i>y'all</i>.<br /><br />I love it when a plan comes together!<br /><br />Ask me how I'll feel about a CalExit <i>then</i>.<br /><br />And don't try calling what wastrels return home to your locales "Californians"; they aren't now, and won't be then either. They almost all came from y'all, and you're going to get them all back again real soon, with kinfolk interest when they pack along their brats, unless someone discovers another mother lode of gold here in the next decade.<br /><br />As Wilford Brimley told the sheriff at the end of <i>The Electric Horseman</i>, "I wouldn't get my hopes up."Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.com