tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post1192843789660928291..comments2024-03-28T12:13:06.135-05:00Comments on Bayou Renaissance Man: Post-eclipse and post-Harvey thoughts on emergency preparationsPeterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-29120372034735268492017-09-03T23:12:33.216-05:002017-09-03T23:12:33.216-05:00Not only are there no new refineries, older ones h...Not only are there no new refineries, older ones have been shutting down. This is due to regs by the EPA. <br /><br />They are not allowed to refit equipment, but must upgrade to the most extreme limit demanded. Oil companies have to decide between being profitable, or razing the place and building from scratch, pretty much. Can't blame them, with the .gov out of control for thirty years. Stupid policies, but what else can you expect from government workers?Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00722792638246578812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-5699379391243732592017-09-03T08:12:45.043-05:002017-09-03T08:12:45.043-05:00I did some research on where a majority of gasolin...I did some research on where a majority of gasoline and diesel deliveries in my area come from. The pipeline terminal was "upgraded" about 20 years ago but actual storage capacity was less after the upgrade. Tanks were new but smaller.<br /><br />There's value in learning about the infrastructure in your area. Be extremely discreet about it obviously but learn what is around you. If there are industries in your area learn what they produce, the materials they bring in and what goes out. If there are warehouses learn what's in them. Do they distribute food? Finished goods for retail? Inputs for industry? Are there LTL truck terminals in your area and what sorts of things go through there? Are there grain storage facilities close to you? What pipelines run though your area? Who are the owners and users of the various radio/ cellular towers in your area. Where does your water come from? Where's the local telephone central office? How is electricity distributed? What substation power what parts of your town/county? All could be vital information in an emergency.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-58631753290586316662017-09-02T18:53:33.437-05:002017-09-02T18:53:33.437-05:00@ Paul - IIRC, it's been something like 30 yea...@ Paul - IIRC, it's been something like 30 years since a new refinery has been built in the U.S. - anywere. <br /><br />And as for the storage problem, you're right - the storage mechanism is heavily dependent upon "Joe and Jane storing gasoline in their vehicles' tanks," and there's a certain amount "stored" inside the actual pipeline while it's being pumped to destination and in what are relatively small tank farms at pipeline terminals. <br /><br />JIT (Just In Time) is great financially, and from a quality of component standpoint, it's even better. But JIT doesn't provide a buffer for unexpected situations. I'm more than a bit concerned about the hoopla around 3D printing because I can see component manufacturing and distribution being severely reduced when the corner parts house can simply print a replacement. If there's a software problem, network issue or printer failure, the reserve capacity will be at or near zero. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-42984000578542052432017-09-02T16:54:10.605-05:002017-09-02T16:54:10.605-05:00Joseph touched on a good point, about the inherent...Joseph touched on a good point, about the inherent frailty of the 'Just In Time' stock supply chain. <br /><br /> This VERY MUCH includes fuel. There's a bottleneck between refinery production (we need more refineries where we currently have none) and storage. We have EXTREMELY LIMITED fuel storage in the US. Refiners have started exporting fuel despite much less profit in international trade, because there's nowhere to put the crude feedstocks and finished clean fuel (gas, diesel and jet)we use for domestic production, and lower profit is still better than no profit. <br /><br /> We activated an additional 50,000 bbl clean oil barge and tugboat in the northeast to meet changed demand, but it hasn't been significant. The problem is that there is no shortage of fuel except at the point-of-sail at retail, and we're currently dealing with drastically reduced carriage rates for bulk fuel movement because crude prices are so low, so the network of inland barges and over-the-road trucks has been reduced in size to ride it out. <br /> Next week should see some changes as the US national fuel infrastructure absorbs the production disruption and demand spike. For now, panic buying has made a dog's dinner out of the supply chain and resulted in a lot of grief.Paul, Dammit!https://www.blogger.com/profile/02264872375942355609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-77347107713624176552017-09-02T00:57:52.164-05:002017-09-02T00:57:52.164-05:00In a past life I worked as a Paramedic. In my init...In a past life I worked as a Paramedic. In my initial training I learned that the mobile phone networked routinely operated at 95% capacity<br /><br />So, in an emergency......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-31097435674236074882017-09-02T00:53:48.916-05:002017-09-02T00:53:48.916-05:00What do you use all the time? Water, food, fuel, b...What do you use all the time? Water, food, fuel, batteries, clothing for inclement weather? Dog food? <br /><br />Make a list. Track usage for a while to put quantities to that list.<br /><br />THEN BUY THE $@#&ing STUFF AT REGULARLY SCHEDULED INTERVALS. Yes, what you need sometimes goes on sale; if a sale price coincides with the timing of your scheduled purchases, buy more, but if it's not on sale buy your regularly scheduled amount anyway. <br /><br />Are you lazy and stupid? Amazon <i>Subscribe and Save</i> was invented just for you. Amazon also has scads of "preparedness lists" most of the contents of which qualify for S&S deliveries.<br /><br />Do you know what the difference is between a <i>stray</i> cat and <i>your</i> cat?<br /><br />One dish of food.<br /><br />People work the same way. If you have a surplus and decide to share it, I guaran-damn-tee your doorbell will never stop ringing, right up to the time that the hungry herd standing on your porch decides <i>it's not fair</i> that you're hoarding food and they don't have any. After they finish helping themselves to what you've spent months, or years, building up you will find <i>yourself</i> in "stray cat" status. Shaddup about your preps. <br /><br />If you just gotta share, do it anonymously, at midnight, with a middleman for safety. Like a church in your neighborhood. Like a food bank. <br /><br />Stray cats will still show up at your door, so learn not just how to shoot but <i>how to run the $@#&ing gun</i>. Pro tip: 300 cans of food but only 1 gun with a single magazine and one box of 50 rounds is a severe imbalance that may turn out to be very painful for you; Real Life ain't nothin' like the movies. <br /><br />Learn stuff: how to read a map and use a compass; basic and intermediate first aid skills; how to make fire; different - safe - ways to make it Not Dark and/or Warm; what your physical limits are; the mental resilience to very quickly develop a Plan B; and a Plan C; and a Plan D; and so on; (this is both reason for "another list" and an opportunity for a family to do stuff together, and sometimes it will be interesting stuff. Sometimes it won't. Learn it anyway.).<br /><br />Remember the tired, old saw that "if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem"? If you're not prepared you <i>are</i> the problem. Unless you want to be not-so-fondly-remembered as "Speed Bump" get your ass in gear. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-54333738259105598782017-09-02T00:03:47.973-05:002017-09-02T00:03:47.973-05:00I was in central Missouri for the eclipse. Traffi...I was in central Missouri for the eclipse. Traffic going in was pretty much normal. I was surprised how many people were at the out of the way wildlife refuge I had chosen as a viewing location. (Amazing experience btw-hard to put into words. People with just a passing interest who were just there to party were, at 100% totality, standing mouths agape with tears streaming down their cheeks. It was extraordinary. I understand why people spend vast sums to chase eclipses around the globe)<br />Anyway, the trip back home was horrendous. The divided highway north(US63) was a parking lot and LE and locals seemed to be blocking back roads so that you couldn't bail off onto county gravels and run back roads north. Added a good 2+ hours to the trip. Another thing to note: car GPS sucks. Have detailed maps. Not just a road atlas or gas station map. Get a good detailed county level road maps and topo maps. Don't count on data from Google earth on your phone either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-11050788406189688052017-09-01T14:55:20.652-05:002017-09-01T14:55:20.652-05:00Great article and link. I live in one of the NE Me...Great article and link. I live in one of the NE Metro Atlanta area counties-you could watch the Digital Traffic Maps go Red after the Eclipse. Some thoughts I did not see mentioned and that in addition to BoB/extra water in Vehicle is Hard Copy Maps of your trip area and a Road atlas. I keep a Big Delorme State Topo map Atlas-1:182,000' in the back seat pocket. That and an extra trusty ole Lensatic compass . The Mantra we used in the service-[ I was on Tanks]-was Don't trust the Electronics-[to keep functioning all the time],so I always kept the 1:50,000 map update w/ at least the basic mission Graphics.Plus we never dismounted w/out it anyways. And while I some devices can have Digital maps pre-loaded on them,re-charging could be an issue if forced to seperate from the Vehicles Power supply.Ed-Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16727359733185669482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-5170330370134267272017-09-01T11:36:28.837-05:002017-09-01T11:36:28.837-05:00 Anonymous said...
Number one should be - build yo... Anonymous said...<br />Number one should be - build your house on a hill!<br />With a solid basement to hunker down in when the gale force winds or tornado take the house.Uncle Larhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04008207593205949098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-36767002842145365752017-09-01T10:33:15.481-05:002017-09-01T10:33:15.481-05:00The very prevalent "Just in time" invent...The very prevalent "Just in time" inventory system that many stores and companies use mean that there is no "depth" to inventory levels. It means that, for example, at Wal-mart there will pretty much be nothing in stock beyond what is on the shelves. If the roads are jammed or unusable, there is no "inventory" to pull from. That's why it is imperative that one has enough to deal with an emergency BEFORE the emergency occurs. Josephnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-78287879442065733182017-09-01T10:26:28.688-05:002017-09-01T10:26:28.688-05:00Number one should be - build your house on a hill!...Number one should be - build your house on a hill!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-42518627252153324252017-09-01T09:20:39.474-05:002017-09-01T09:20:39.474-05:00An image stuck in my mind; the long lines at every...An image stuck in my mind; the long lines at every gas station in my small Northern Colorado city on 9/11. Many examples of rude behavior. The lesson was you need to be prepared to take care of yourself. Other will look after themselves. If you are lucky, they might leave a few crumbs for you.Well Seasoned Foolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16670165728759453075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-56903481419468306852017-09-01T08:57:57.319-05:002017-09-01T08:57:57.319-05:00Leaving the Dallas area yesterday (Thursday) after... Leaving the Dallas area yesterday (Thursday) afternoon with a truckload of stuff heading east, my GPS said to use I-20. I opted for I-30 to I-40 to stay further from the coast. Still caught some of the rain from the remains of the storm. Also, lots of truck traffic with all the other big trucks avoiding more southerly routes. It doesn't take much to overwhelm the highway system. There isn't much excess capacity at the best of times.<br /><br />Last week in Oregon for the eclipse, we succeeded in avoiding most of the traffic. We found a location somewhat off the beaten path, east of Portland, but not on the main road to Madras(AKA madness central). The place we stopped was called "High Rock" and even there we had a crowd, although not a large one. I imagine that in a serious evacuation situation there would be no truly "off the beaten path" places to go to.fast richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05947715402204312013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-81255074348714591692017-09-01T08:42:38.572-05:002017-09-01T08:42:38.572-05:00We went up to a VERY remote part of Wyoming to wat...We went up to a VERY remote part of Wyoming to watch the eclipse. The number of people who managed to get into the area was impressively large with commiserate traffic jams. Even on the remotest jeep tracks there were random people, many obviously unprepared for the conditions.<br /><br />- Stations ran out of gas, I was very happy to have extra on the jeep. (Along with many days worth of food, water, POL, ammo you name it.)<br /><br />- Coms were down all over the state and didn't recover for a couple days until the crowds filtered out. Internet was impossible, texting and voice very spotty.<br /><br />- All this for a state that is filled with competent and organized people who have been preparing for the influx for a couple of years.<br /><br />Bottom line is that there is zero resiliency in the system. All is fine in our just in time world and the bean counters are happy, but if ANYTHING goes out of the normal you are on your own and all of a sudden the 21st century is gone and gone hard.<br />Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05794819428417507627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-56116106488701581772017-09-01T08:23:26.148-05:002017-09-01T08:23:26.148-05:00A last couple of thoughts. I had heard it before b... A last couple of thoughts. I had heard it before but....it was really shown to me. Recovery is insanely hard and slow. Meaning this. It quit raining on Tuesday morning. Today is Friday....not all grocery stores are open. Of those that are shelves are often bare! The stores have nothing in their backrooms. The system cant handle resupply in an event like this. No milk, no bread, no meat. When they get a truck load it is gone in minutes. That will change yet....it hasn't yet. What if the problem was larger than just 10-20 counties. John Galthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16708866657173222842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-80624550296615231722017-09-01T08:01:30.388-05:002017-09-01T08:01:30.388-05:00I live in the Houston area ( A n side suburb). A c...I live in the Houston area ( A n side suburb). A couple of thoughts. First, we were in pretty good shape going in. I went to closet, removed " Hurricane" box....and went through supplies inside. Determined all was well except we needed more batteries. I went out right away and got more. WOW !! I got the last D sized batteries from The Battery Store !!! A store that sells nothing else but batteries quickly ran out ! I did manage to get a few more from a Walgreens because.....no one else thought to go to a drug store to buy batteries. Second.....those neighbors who had helped US over the years....we helped now that the storm was coming. Some had no water, no money, no anything. We helped them. However, those who rarely or never helped us Before.....didn't get so much help from us when they needed it. Some people are lazy and/or often have their hands out. When SHTF, I don't help them and I don't admit that I have anything at all. " You looking for bottled water? Me too.....tell me if you find any." ( WHile I'm setting on cases stocked in advance). Third....there were looters. I don't get it. In Texas that is like playing Russian Roulette. We are a state where half the people on any given day are armed. So....With my pistol concealed and my eyes wide open I went door to door to make sure everyone had heard about the thieves. None came to our block. Most of the families were armed. Some of the ones who weren't armed with guns at least had machette and baseball bats....and making plans for their gun purchase to come soon. ( Yet even then at least one couple refused to learn other than locking there doors. Folks it rained over 6 in a hour at one point.....no police coming ! ). Finally, it seemed like the people who couldn't decide what to do got hurt the worst ! If you are going to stay....stay ! If you are going to leave...leave EARLY !! Roads became unpassable and areas of death !! DO NOT be on the road when things are going down ! ! ! Roads clog ! People run out of gas. I felt a little bad because a lot of people were screaming at the mayor ( a political thing mainly ) for not evacuating the city. Who are you kidding? You cant evacuate 6 Million people in less than 48 hours !! If you even could....where the hell would they go??? Remember that ! If any SHTF event happens in your area in the future. Whether it is local or national. You have only a very small window to decide to go, or to stay. Because the highways, the backroads...whatever. Just plain can't handle that much traffic ! John Galthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16708866657173222842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-65473887862405005722017-09-01T06:39:05.839-05:002017-09-01T06:39:05.839-05:00I can confirm here in San Antonio that some gas st...I can confirm here in San Antonio that some gas stations have run out of fuel. I think it's based on panic buying more than anything else, though; there was no fuel shortage until it was announced there was a fuel shortage. Also, in SA the summer temperatures often exceed 100 deg. F. I always keep 6-8 cases of water on hand (plus a couple of 5 gal. jugs) because you can dehydrate in a matter of hours in those temps, even if you keep to the shade. If you are working, it will happen even faster. With a case of water at Wal-mart being less that $4.00 a case, there is no reason not to keep some on hand. One MUST have the basics on hand BEFORE an emergency takes place, because once it happens you are just not going to be able to find what you need.<br />Josephnoreply@blogger.com