tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post5268394518947859008..comments2024-03-28T19:58:31.110-05:00Comments on Bayou Renaissance Man: Defensive ammunition when you can't use hollowpointsPeterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-51604492588761683152016-11-06T23:50:00.088-06:002016-11-06T23:50:00.088-06:00I also agree with the "wide meplat flat-nose&...I also agree with the "wide meplat flat-nose" bullet, at the heavy end of the scale. I had a custom bullet mold made for my 10 mm Glock 20. It weighs 220 grains when using a hard-cast alloy. The meplat is alomst as wide as the diameter of the bullet, but it functions reliably in my G20. <br /><br />I load it hot (no, I won't post the grain weight nor which - hint - Accurate Arms powder I use) and carry it here in bear country. I know it is an accurate load, as I made a miraculous 83 yard shot on a magpie (about eight inches tall by four inches wide) as measured afterwards with a laser range finder. (Hate the buggers, as they not only steal food from my chickens, but they kill baby chickens and the young of other bird species.)<br /><br />I have been a fan of the .45 ACP for a long time, and bought and carried a G21 when they first came out in the early '90s (carried other .45 ACP pistols before the Glock). However, a friend of mine (former Recon Marine) who also lives in bear country convinced me that 15 rounds of hot 10 mm with the wide-meplat flat-nosed bullet was a better choice than six rounds of .44 Mag (and no time to reload when getting charged). So I carry the G20 in the woods and the G21 where two-legged predators are the predominant threat.Reg Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14099612693763932005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-35429685533560675942016-10-23T14:52:09.822-05:002016-10-23T14:52:09.822-05:00I concur w/ comments above endorsing flatpoint bul...I concur w/ comments above endorsing flatpoint bullets. I am convinced the flatnose profile will be more effective, causing more tissue disruption, limiting overpenetration and maximizing energy transfer.<br />I recently worked up a .45ACP handload using Oregon Trail 200gr LRNFP (.45 LC). This feeds in all my 1911s and an XD as well. Probably runs about 875-900 FPS, low recoil in Officer size pistols.<br /><br />Speer Lawman offers a +P .45ACP cartridge with a 200gr JRNFP bullet loaded to 1000FPS. This might be a good choice for full size 1911s.<br /><br />Federal Guard Dog ammo in various calibers is worth a look. This is expanding ammo without an exposed hollow point and might be just the ticket in some jurisdictions.<br /><br />=BCE56= Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-13282708182873868792015-01-02T11:03:58.892-06:002015-01-02T11:03:58.892-06:00I habitually carry a 9mm. With modern defensive am...I habitually carry a 9mm. With modern defensive ammunition the actual difference between .38 special, 9mm, .40S&W and .45acp is negligible. Among other reasons the 9mm is cheaper to practice with and holds more bullets than alternatives.<br /><br />If I was restricted on ammunition choices I would not change cartridge/ guns even though 9mm FMJ isn't exactly a noted man stopper. The reason is round count. One could argue you need more rounds of 9mmm FMJ than say .45 FMJ to stop a person so additional capacity is a wash. I disagree because additional capacity gives more opportunities to put lead into meat or the right meat. <br /><br />Now if I was restricted on capacity I would choose a larger cartridge than 9mm. Would get a small .45 to carry and a Glock 21 SF or maybe M&P for a house gun.<br /><br />In my youth during the 94-04 AWB I had this problem. On my budget it was ten rounds or under. I ended up with a Glock 22 in .40 S&W because the original Glock 21 was a tiny bit uncomfortable for my hands. Had they made the Glock 21 SF I would have purchased it. Later sold off the Glock 22. Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09612373437033635765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-69396978085018904222015-01-02T06:01:02.357-06:002015-01-02T06:01:02.357-06:00There is also the school of thought that bullets t...There is also the school of thought that bullets that stop INSIDE the assailant are preferred to those whose velocity causes both entry / exit wounds. One for bullet running out of energy inside the body, the other for lack of injury to those beyond the target.<br /><br />My personal preference is for 'big and slow ( (.40 + bore and < than 1000 fps). That will leave a mark and convince the attacker that the shooter should probably be left alone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-56509514624725524632015-01-02T03:51:22.354-06:002015-01-02T03:51:22.354-06:00If limited to solids, a large flat meplat will be ...If limited to solids, a large flat meplat will be more effective than round nose slugs regardless of caliber. .22 LR is a much more effective small game getter when the round nose is clipped off in Paco Kelly's die sets. Col. Cooper was an adherent of the Hatcher scale, IIRC, which fits the general tone here. JohninMd.(HELP?!??)noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-15939277433745529042015-01-01T20:16:32.195-06:002015-01-01T20:16:32.195-06:00What's wrong with good, old jacketed soft poin...What's wrong with good, old jacketed soft points in .357 / 158 grain?<br /><br />Russ IIIAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-4212981336760562362015-01-01T16:45:45.188-06:002015-01-01T16:45:45.188-06:00IIRC, the laws are against hollowpoint bullets, no...IIRC, the laws are against hollowpoint bullets, not expanding bullets. I seem to remember a round invented a few years ago with New Jerseyites in mind; it had a scored round nose profile, and the head was filled with a soft, compressable rubber. Upon impact, the scored head expanded. It also had the benefit of feeding through otherwise finicky feed ramps. <br /><br />I think the Pow rBall rounds would be allowed, too.<br /><br />AntibubbaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-79316307306549606212015-01-01T13:46:43.471-06:002015-01-01T13:46:43.471-06:00Peter,
My retirement EDC is a Kahr P40 bought use...Peter,<br /><br />My retirement EDC is a Kahr P40 bought used from a coworker. I added night sights, and my ammo choice is Guard Dog from Federal.<br /><br />When in New Jersey I am carrying on my 218 card, and in theory I can carry hollow point ammo. Hmmm. Do I trust that my future life will be outside of the crossbar hotel, or do I want to run the risk of an ignorant, or over zealous prosecutor making a case because "OMG hollowpoints!" <br /><br />The choice of non hollow point expanding bullets are limited, and after research I opted for the Guard Dog in .40 caliber. My wife and I shot most of a box through the Kahr to test reliability and point of aim. <br /><br />Jim22, I shoot the Kahr well, but that took a lot of practice. I thought the Kahr trigger was much like my first civilian service pistol, the Beretta Brigadier 96D. A longish but smooth double action pull. And the Kahr in 40 is not a fun pistol to shoot.<br /><br />John in Philly<br /><br /><br /><br />John in Phillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16196033252818387245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-60915536367100229992015-01-01T12:01:09.528-06:002015-01-01T12:01:09.528-06:00Peter,
Your choice of the Kahr pistol intrigues m...Peter,<br /><br />Your choice of the Kahr pistol intrigues me. I have owned one Kahr semi-auto pistol. For some reason I had a lot of trouble with their trigger. I shoot mostly striker-fired pistols and found the change from a straight-back trigger movement to one that pivoted at the top to be difficult to adapt to. I kept shooting low with it.<br /><br />Oddly, I don't have the same trouble with double-action revolvers. <br /><br />Maybe it was just the gun I had or maybe it was me. I didn't like the Kahr so I traded it in on something else.Jim22http://therealrevo.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-35403197554550723302015-01-01T11:44:27.240-06:002015-01-01T11:44:27.240-06:00During this time of year, the layers of clothing n...During this time of year, the layers of clothing necessary to keep warm can defeat a hollow point anyway. It can fill the cavity with layers of cloth and then fail to expand.<br /><br />In winter, my carry doesn't change much, due to my location... But up north, where it gets colder, I wouldn't be hesitate to swap to larger calibre solids.<br /><br />I agree with Anon. The flat point is going to punch a better hole than a round nose at slower velocities. My dad saw some terminal ballistic evidence as a police officer. He told me that a RNL projectile from a 38 Spl had been know to move intestines, not penetrate them. It seems only logical that a flat nose would be less likely to move as opposed to punch thru. Cavitation and shock are important to stopping, as well as a heavier bullet. It's hard to stop a train quickly, just like a heavier bullet. <br /><br />But then comes the risk of over-penetration. It's doubly important to know where that bullet is going after it exits the target if you are mandated to carry solids. If a bullet dumps ALL it's energy and remains in the target, all the better.<br /><br />Life is full of compromise, thankfully, technology has given us a ton of choices. <br /><br />Thanks for linking to the historical info. Information is there for all who would be informed in their opinions.STxRynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-72819581949039017252015-01-01T10:43:44.734-06:002015-01-01T10:43:44.734-06:00One thing that I think might be worth considering ...One thing that I think might be worth considering is bullet shape. Handgun hunters that use cast lead bullets seem to almost universally agree that a flat meplat seems to work better then a roundnose. Semi auto pistols will be more limited in what bullet profile will feed reliably, but I would go for the largest flat nose possible if not allowed to use hollowpoints. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-52265974128378850032015-01-01T07:49:47.079-06:002015-01-01T07:49:47.079-06:00I still prefer the old 1873 Colt .45 round. I have...I still prefer the old 1873 Colt .45 round. I have had very good results obtaining kills on deer size game with 255gr hard cast SWC bullets @ 1000fps. This is a round that allows you to load black powder or Pyrodex in a "powder drought" under a 255 soft lead bullet and still get 900fps from a revolver with a 5 inch tube.---RayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-36343192800067580362014-12-31T21:55:25.984-06:002014-12-31T21:55:25.984-06:00Everything is a personal choice with many factors ...Everything is a personal choice with many factors to consider. For me it is a five round revolver in .44 Special with wad cutter rounds. Not pleasant to practice with but mine is approaching 1,000 rounds with no malfunctions.Well Seasoned Foolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16670165728759453075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-79776850477314200582014-12-31T20:57:22.530-06:002014-12-31T20:57:22.530-06:00Some thoughts-
I once had the pleasure of French ...Some thoughts-<br /> I once had the pleasure of French fitting a custom case for a pair of flintlock "traveling" pistols- so named because of their small size, designed for protection against highwaymen,ruffians and various scofflaws.<br /> Single barrel, produced in the late 1700's, and the bore was about .75". When reloads took a minute for an expert, bores were big! <br /><br /> Be very careful with similar guns in both 9mm and .40 cal- especially when using the same brand and type of ammo- a .40 round will load quite nicely into a 9mm Glock magazine. It will obviously not feed or fire. The relatively small size difference can be missed- the difference between a .45 and 9mm , not so much- those could probably be told by feel in the dark. <br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com