tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post5325554081364063233..comments2024-03-28T06:31:29.549-05:00Comments on Bayou Renaissance Man: It's never nice when friends fight . . .Peterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-65386331122624725382019-07-14T16:21:06.470-05:002019-07-14T16:21:06.470-05:00My daddy always said: "everything's a tra...My daddy always said: "everything's a trade off, anyone who says otherwise is selling you something."<br /><br />There's not going to be a perfect solution, only a solution who's price we're willing to pay.<br /><br />I'm actually glad to see @Aesop pointing out that legalization won't be the immediate end of the cartels, I've been saying that awhile myself.<br /><br />May be the answer is some things made legal, some things made not. Maybe a federalist system where eacg state decides. Dunno, but like i said, we'll have to decide which cost we're willing to pay.Nate Winchesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00630873800235819300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-62951592637692287372019-07-13T22:36:25.715-05:002019-07-13T22:36:25.715-05:00That doesn't appear to be what's happening...That doesn't appear to be what's happening, anymore than bootleggers and the mob undercut legal booze after the repeal of Prohibition, though. <a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/02/20/mexican-cartels-switch-gears-after-u-s-states-relax-u-s-states-legalize-marijuana-mexicos-cartels-sw/343389002/" rel="nofollow">Mexican cartels pushing more heroin after U.S. states relax marijuana laws</a>Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13296988746956477216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-3174856476247951902019-07-13T13:09:56.328-05:002019-07-13T13:09:56.328-05:00Stronger weed just means that people smoke less of...Stronger weed just means that people smoke less of it at one sitting for the same high. It's called "one-hit pot" for a reason. One hit versus a whole joint of the old stuff. It's like arguing hard liquor is 10 times worse than beer or wine. Well, yeah, if you consume the same liquid volume of each. Want to rethink that?<br /><br />It's not harmless, but come down like a ton of bricks on driving while impaired and make sure everyone knows what will happen to them if caught, the rates will come down just like DUI rates came down from 1980 levels.Larryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13296988746956477216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-31143727620372614312019-07-13T09:13:40.091-05:002019-07-13T09:13:40.091-05:00McChuck: Please provide references for your claims...McChuck: Please provide references for your claims. I find no statistics for marijuana overdose and controversy over a coroner ruling a marijuana overdose this year.<br /><br />In Colorado traffic fatalities rose from 447 in 2011 (before legalization) to 648 in 2017. That's 45% in 5 years, not doubled in 6 months. Nationally fatalities rose 20%, so I don't think all of the rise can be blamed on legalization. That's before looking at whether the reason is marijuana or not.Thomas Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05701283200252131890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-31159409833420334332019-07-13T07:28:14.224-05:002019-07-13T07:28:14.224-05:00Technomad - Marijuana is a hallucinogen. The stro...Technomad - Marijuana is a hallucinogen. The strong stuff is now well over 20% THC. That's <b>ten times</b> the concentration it used to be. People are regularly going insane or dying from marijuana overdoses these days.<br /><br />People who use marijuana habitually for 5 years have brain damage you can see on imaging. The stereotype of the stoner exists for a reason.<br /><br />The rate of traffic fatalities in Colorado doubled in the six months following legalization of marijuana.<br /><br />Still think it's harmless?McChuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10243337792601085456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-90258257969349682812019-07-12T17:37:17.049-05:002019-07-12T17:37:17.049-05:00"Gateway drugs." I'm reminded of no..."Gateway drugs." I'm reminded of nothing so much as the frantic warnings of the Temperance/Prohibition movement, Back In The Day, that drinking so much as <i>one</i> beer inevitably led to alcoholism and a ruined life. And I would like to hear an explanation for the people I know personally who've toked for years, but have yet to graduate to anything harder. Maybe they didn't read the book?<br /><br />I will stipulate freely, for the record, that <i>some</i> drugs and <i>some</i> people are a bad combination. The exact same thing could be said of alcohol---again, I know people who're perfectly okay when sober, but after a few drinks, it's Katy-bar-the-door with a vengeance. However, the solution to that is not law...it's for them to recognize that drink's something they're better off without. <br /><br />Our Esteemed Host's experience is not necessarily typical; the people you find incarcerated do tend, on the whole, to be dysfunctional. They would almost certainly be just as dysfunctional in a world where mind-altering substances did not exist. And I have heard that just about any drug you want can be obtained in prison, even in maximum security. Rather than prohibiting them, why not try a different approach?<br /><br />One reason I oppose the War on Drugs so bitterly is my mother's experience. She had to nurse her much-beloved brother through his last, fatal illness(the same kind of bone cancer that Teddy Kennedy's son had) and he was in so much pain that even the strongest stuff my grandmother (an MD and one of the first women in that profession that I know of in my state) wasn't doing much good. Mom told me that if she could have obtained heroin to alleviate her dying brother's agony, she'd have done so. Instead, thanks to the fanaticism of Some People, doctors who "prescribe too much" pain medicine are in great danger of bad trouble with the DEA, or of having their licenses to practice taken away---and chronic pain patients can't get the relief they need. This leads to a very high rate of suicide among such people. <br /><br />Also, "drugs" covers a great deal of ground. Marijuana is not cocaine is not barbituates is not heroin is not LSD is not amphetamines is not "magic mushrooms." And most people who use marijuana are perfectly functional, at least in my own experience. The bad rap "drugs" get may come from undiagnosed mental-illness victims trying to self-medicate; I've seen that done with alcohol.Technomadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10438978139389104455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-25459351598278628312019-07-12T12:57:50.494-05:002019-07-12T12:57:50.494-05:00I don't know that I'd call this a fight. ...I don't know that I'd call this a fight. I respect Aesop a lot - maybe my skin is thick, but we have to be able to have a truly open discussion among friends.<br /><br />And I agree with your conclusion that this country has no stomach for executing thousands of drug dealers.Borepatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05029434172945099693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-89381231868997113012019-07-12T12:36:52.569-05:002019-07-12T12:36:52.569-05:00Larry Niven solved the drug problem in his univers...Larry Niven solved the drug problem in his universe with his wireheads. Rather than attacking the drug problem directly make them obsolete by providing a better and cheaper high.<br /><br />https://infogalactic.com/info/Wirehead_(science_fiction)<br /><br />It solves many of the issues, danger to others, crime, disease and legal costs but at the expense of probably proving fatal to a large percentage of the addict type population.Stan_qazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16177236446865672828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-8788476154812468392019-07-12T12:03:12.100-05:002019-07-12T12:03:12.100-05:00@Aesop: I could write your "If We Legalize an...@Aesop: I could write your "If We Legalize and Tax Drugs" post dated 1932 replacing "drug" with "alcohol". And we've seen the result of legalizing alcohol, it's a wonder society still exists. :-)<br /><br />I also can't refute your most of your claims because they are absolutes. Will junkies "never" leave a needle in the street? Will there be no (zero) black market in untaxed drugs? Will minor children never, ever, not once in a nation of 350 million, get their hands on drugs?<br /><br />Of course not, those aren't true of legal products today. But we don't see violence in the streets or failed states taken over by violent gangs from legal products.<br /><br />But I'm not going to convince you because most of your statements are true today, and being absolutes (never) will remain true if drugs are legal. You also aren't going to convince me using the same war on drugs arguments which have been used for decades and, to a large extent, are descriptions of any black market.Thomas Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05701283200252131890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-50154246164403059072019-07-12T10:30:43.597-05:002019-07-12T10:30:43.597-05:00I'm not sure about the relevancy of needles on...I'm not sure about the relevancy of needles on the beach with legalized marijuana. I haven't seen too many people injecting marijuana, but then again I don't hang out with druggies to begin with. <br /><br />kamas716https://www.blogger.com/profile/02138979155761442634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-47435795299572447592019-07-12T10:23:15.252-05:002019-07-12T10:23:15.252-05:00Here's where I start on this topic:
You can&#...Here's where I start on this topic:<br /><br />You can't get insurance for risks related to an illegal act.<br /><br />For legal acts that entail some risks, an insurer could assess the individual, the act in question, the risk pool, and come up with some kind of rider related to that activity.<br /><br />Thus, I think that if a person is using legalized marijuana, they should have a rider specifically to address increased liability due to diminished capacity, potential drug rehab costs in case they become uncontrollably addicted, overdose medical response costs, et ceteras. This cost may be minimal, particularly if the individual has an low propensity toward addiction (how you'd work that out, I don't know, but I do know of both people that are wrecked after using something once and people who are full functioning and partake on occasion, so presumably there is a spectrum)<br /><br />Similarly, locations that legally sell recreational pharmaceutics could be required to see an insurance card or a bond card for those that self-insure. Such sellers would report amount and dosage dispensed to the insurers, who would track usage as part of their calculations for determining the cost of the insurance rider. This would dis-incentivize legal users from purchasing for others because they could face higher insurance costs for higher apparent usage rates. Naturally, such an insurance rider would be void if the user was consuming the RecPharm from sources/sellers that weren't logged to the insurer, and the user would essentially be self-insuring. Legal sellers would be able to vouch for the quality, quantity and characteristics of the product they sold, as procured from legitimate sources that document such things.<br /><br />At one time, I held a position in the USAF were I was managing contracts, and I learned that a government contractors never says "No", but rather they tell you how much what you want will cost. I think there is much value in this for many parts of life. The difference between absolute prohibition and a dispassionate presentation of the necessary costs changes much. The forbidden has an perverse appeal. The quite expensive has a different appeal, and it is subject to considerations of "was it really $NUMBER good?"<br /><br />To go along with that scheme, an crime committed under the influence should be considered either pre-meditated or reckless disregard. You purposely chose to put your neuro-chemistry in an altered state, in a circumstance where it was possible for you commit such a crime, so you're just as liable as if you has lit a fire and walked off.<br /><br />None of this will actually do anything about completely black-market usage, except at the tail end of the scenario where the user is entangled in the justice system. But we have that scenario now, and otherwise the burden of dealing with ODs, addition, etc is socialized through the emergency rooms and the jails. Private high, public cost, lots of strong feelings on both sides of the issue. I think it would change the game considerably if we moved to a more private high, private cost (moderated through insurance) system.Tirnohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12545609711956034630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-730239441985420682019-07-12T09:59:42.762-05:002019-07-12T09:59:42.762-05:00Some thoughts;
The Cartels m,igh well line up to ...Some thoughts;<br /><br />The Cartels m,igh well line up to pay their taxes. Right now they spend a great deal of money over territory disputes and using violence to enforce contracts. Going to court has almost GOT to be cheaper. Certainly a lot of people who were involved in bootlegging at various levels went legit in 1933. <br /><br />Tobacco and alcohol are still being smuggled even where they are nominally legal because the governments in those areas tax them to such absurd levels that smuggling is worthwhile. There's a simple lesson there, but it's a lesson that assorted authoritarian swine steadfastly refuse to learn.<br /><br />Needles scattered over the landscape is a littering problem. Arguably creating a public nuisance or menace. Don't jail people for shooting up. jail them for being barbarians who don't pick up after themselves. <br /><br />There have been studies purporting to show that what ruins junkies' lives is not the drug, but the arrest and the record. I cannot vouch for the truth of such studies, but they sound plausible. <br /><br />Legalize drugs like heroin and we get the government the hell out of kibitzing pain management. That HAS to be a plus.<br /><br />The way I understand it, the widespread use of 'no-knock' warrants, midnight raids, asset forfeiture, and 'dynamic entry' (sounds SOOOOO much better than kicking doors in) all trace back to the War On Drugs. So the WOD has largely failed to end drug use while making Police State tactics mainstream.<br /><br />C. S. P. Schofieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18307088118631856756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-32495989928085143092019-07-12T09:48:50.528-05:002019-07-12T09:48:50.528-05:00Drug use and in particular drugs other than Mariju...Drug use and in particular drugs other than Marijuana have created a lot of health issues as well as crimes done in support of the habits these drugs induce. I have no problem isolating the Marijuana users from the other drug users and dealing with that as a separate issue.<br /><br />If we truly want to reduce or even eliminate hard drug use we need to consider that in any war zone, your first strategy is to deny the enemy reinforcements and resupply. If the enemy is the entire 'hard drug' system including suppliers, dealers and users, you need to stop the flow of drugs into the system. If you can starve the system of drugs you will essentially put the pushers and suppliers out of business.<br /><br />Border control is job one in this matter. You can compare the war on drugs to the WWII campaign in the Pacific. Each island represents a system of resistance. When we began an approach to attack and take over an island, we started by stopping the resupply of that particular island followed then by a campaign to eradicate the invaders on the ground. If we could stop the flow or even just stem it to half or less, we could end a lot of the illegal use.<br /><br />Without a containment policy that is designed to eliminate or curtail the influx of illegal drugs any other effort to fight illegal drug sales and use is pointless. You cannot bail out a leaky boat if you do not fix the leaks.<br /><br />Ultimately, the war on drugs is a war of sovereignty over the lands we call the United States. The enemy is a public health menace along with an increased level of crime associated with the sale and use of said drugs. <br /><br />I live in a very rural area and yet, I see increased violent crimes going on in communities in the region that 15 years ago never saw such things. The drug trade and the turf wars are creating a hazardous situation in communities and this is a problem for the local population in terms of safety and health. As mentioned, legalization has its problems too as the government cannot resist taxing anything that involves money and is legal. Black market sales will still proliferate if drugs are legalized. It is that distribution network and the crime that surrounds it that is the real problem in the nation today.Glenda T Goodehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01124547784959889077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-79574485727220881782019-07-12T09:41:31.362-05:002019-07-12T09:41:31.362-05:00@Thomas W,
No, I'm bloody well not saying tha...@Thomas W,<br /><br />No, I'm bloody well not saying that, but you knew that.<br /><br />The problems in Califrutopia go hand in glove, but they all spring from the same root.<br /><br />The <i>laissez faire</i> attitude towards pot springs from the same <i>laissez faire</i> attitude about <b>every</b> drug, coupled with a massive defect of reasoning, total and fundamental ignorance of human nature, and malign intent regarding the proper role of government.<br /><br />But feel free to take a look at what I wrote will happen with legalization, and explain how that <i>won't</i> happen.<br />Show your work.<br /><br />"It's too hard, and I don't have the stomach for that" is not a good enough excuse to flush civilization down the toilet.<br /><br />@Technomad<br /><br />Read up on "gateway drugs". No one starts off shooting up heroin. They start off getting drunk. Then high on pot. And they keep looking for bigger highs, until that's all they do. And in a short time, you have San Fransh*tsco. Prove me wrong: find me articles detailing the needles all over the place, and the homeless addicts crapping and sleeping in the streets from before the time we legalized or decriminalized pot. If you're right, that there's no progression, it should be easy for you.<br /><br />Lock up the homeless? Fine. Get to it. <br />Most of them are homeless <i>because</i> they're addicts <i>and</i> crazy, off their psych meds because those make them feel "weird" (we call that feeling "sanity"), so instead they get high because when they get the voices in their head stoned, they can't understand what they're saying (which is always "Kill yourself. You suck.") That last is actual verbatim quotes from one of the more lucid exemplars of the species, btw.<br /><br />And sorry if it's news to you, but the government has no more power with regards to your life or liberty because of the War on Drugs now than they ever did, in your entire lifetime.<br />The feds were seizing cars and assets used in crimes back to 1929.<br />We've been writing drug laws in this country since at least 1832. <br />No, that's not a typo. 1832. Opium Tariff Laws.<br />The government had the same ability to abuse you and take away your freedom in 1789 that they do now.<br /><br />If this is news to you, you haven't been paying close attention.<br /><br />And it's a matter of record that a hands-off policy on drugs pre-1900 or so, which every internet pseudo-historian pines for, was what <i>created</i> between 500K and 1M junkies in this country before the turn of the last century, when the US population was only 76M people.<br /><br />The last refuge of scoundrels is trying to protect rights they never had, at the expense of everyone else in society.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-9041994453957486362019-07-12T08:32:40.640-05:002019-07-12T08:32:40.640-05:00One can combat drug abuse/trafficking while still ...One can combat drug abuse/trafficking while still making some substances legal or decriminalizing their use.<br /><br />"In Singapore, you can be dragged into custody without a warrant and be compelled to submit to drug testing by the Singapore authorities."<br /><br />So, if you want to shred the Bill of Rights even more with a "Final Solution" to drug users/abusers then have at it. I don't think you'll gain much support.Keith_Indyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09900830113215405434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-91334222941441556432019-07-12T07:36:58.510-05:002019-07-12T07:36:58.510-05:00Well Singapore was called Disneyland with the deat...Well Singapore was called Disneyland with the death penalty for a reason.<br /><br />As a filthy libertarian, I'm in favor of decriminalization but on the other hand I'm in favor of pulling the safety net too. If you go into a thing heads up and eyes open, it's on you to deal with the consequences. Legalizing with changing how drugs are dealt with on the results side is a recipe for failure.<br /><br />Then there's the view from tinfoil hat territory. Legalize drugs plus state funded single payer equals a tax rate high enough to guarantee no one has any mobility economic or physical.chris vfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11583845208621979081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-17457319299870215492019-07-12T06:06:52.766-05:002019-07-12T06:06:52.766-05:00There is no drug problem in Singapore. Check it o...There is no drug problem in Singapore. Check it out.CPTCWKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11416486743603685153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-67288613127339511162019-07-12T05:40:13.705-05:002019-07-12T05:40:13.705-05:00For most of life I have been totally against drug ...For most of life I have been totally against drug use and alcohol. I've never taken drugs and had my last drink aged 19 before I was baptised. My brother-in-law is a hopeless junkie. My eldest son has abused meth for years. This has given me a different perspective on the matter.<br /><br />I believe that recreational drug users should be registered. Their drugs could be available via prescription. The drugs would have a genetic marker detectable with an appropriate test. The user would be prohibited from driving, operating dangerous machinery and from certain professions, doctor pilot, law enforcement etc.<br /><br />Anyone caught in possession of unauthorised and illegal drugs/dealing etc would face the most stringent penalties including capital punishment. Hopefully this would reduce crime as addicts would receive a regular supply of their drug and law enforcement could crack down on the illegal trade. Registered use would be decriminalised and become a public health matter. I would point to Keith Richards as an example of someone who was able to obtain what his habit demanded, live a productive and came out the other side clean for the last twenty years. I know I don't have all the answers but there must be a better way!Porter Rockwellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00880294758243189656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-32557564777859660592019-07-12T05:20:13.647-05:002019-07-12T05:20:13.647-05:00Being utterly ruthless is how societal standards a...Being utterly ruthless is how societal standards are established and maintained. Do not murder or rape, or you will be killed. Do not fight with the cops, or you will be beaten or killed. Do not do drugs, or <i>something horrible will happen to you</i>.<br /><br />Government is force. Force is suffering, pain, or death.<br /><br />It's how the world works.McChuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10243337792601085456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-68465529712824124322019-07-12T04:11:31.060-05:002019-07-12T04:11:31.060-05:00@Thomas W: You're absolutely right. If we...@Thomas W: You're absolutely right. If we're ruthless enough, we can win the War On Drugs. If the Left is ruthless enough, it can win its War On Guns. Of course, in the latter case, the casualties would not be nearly so one-sided; but yes, victory is possible that way.<br /><br />It's all about how callous, ruthless and merciless one is prepared to be. As I said in the article, I don't think our society has the stomach for that. Certainly, I, as an individual, don't - not "in the mass". As it affects my family and loved ones? Oh, heck, yes! I can certainly be ruthless enough to put their lives and safety above all other considerations. I suspect most of us will fit that bill, if push comes to shove.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-4914118700605860202019-07-12T00:50:24.723-05:002019-07-12T00:50:24.723-05:00Explain, please, how legalizing marijuana leads to...Explain, please, how legalizing marijuana leads to needles in the sand at the beach. Last I looked, marijuana is not injected. And we could solve the homeless problem in a hurry by going back to the old rules about dealing with insane people...lock them up and keep them that way.<br /><br />Part of my opposition to the Drug War is that it gives the government far too much power, and too many chances to pry into people's affairs. I will also admit that when I hear the words "it's for the CHILL-DRUNN!" my instinct is to get my back to a wall and reach for a weapon. Samuel Johnson was wrong---it is <i>faux</i> concern for "the children," not patriotism, that is the last ploy of a scoundrel.Technomadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10438978139389104455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-66337624148260542602019-07-11T23:35:44.785-05:002019-07-11T23:35:44.785-05:00There is really only one way to deal with it. You ...There is really only one way to deal with it. You address it. You teach your children.<br /><br />If it's all that bad, you couldn't make me notice because there are still many millions and millions of people still in those countries making the drugs and sending them here for pennies. They need those pennies.<br /><br />Way back when I was young I was an officer. I was responsible for the well being of my men.That's all gone by the wayside.<br /><br />I owe familial duty to one but the courts stole her away from me 12 years ago when she was 5. i'd be like the staff officer stepping explaining how to load the rifle at this point and for much of the last 12 years.<br /><br />You're probably familiar with the saying, every man finds the path to his own damnation. Drug addicts can find it easy. Fortunately we number in the billions.HMS Defianthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10024721130102173694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-65130030404510825282019-07-11T22:25:06.739-05:002019-07-11T22:25:06.739-05:00For Peter's comment that we can win the "...For Peter's comment that we can win the "war on drugs" if we really crack down on them, two questions:<br /><br />1. Give examples of nations which have eliminated a black market. In particular, countries which have eliminated a black market without eliminating other individual rights.<br /><br />2. It's interesting that if the topic goes from banning illegal drugs to banning guns I instead hear all of the reasons why banning guns can't work, if guns are illegal only outlaws will have guns, etc. If you believe the war on drugs is winnable then you're also arguing that the "war on guns" by the left is also winnable.Thomas Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05701283200252131890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-70800008689071617452019-07-11T22:13:48.215-05:002019-07-11T22:13:48.215-05:00Aesop, are you saying there were no problems with ...Aesop, are you saying there were no problems with homeless or needles on the beach in California until marijuana was legalized? Making marijuana illegal again will solve the hard drug and homeless problems?<br /><br />I'm in Colorado. I haven't the collapse of civilization and haven't seen reports implying that the state is collapsing because marijuana is legal. Of course, somebody will now tell me that the state is in violent anarchy and I just haven't seen it or am ignoring it.Thomas Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05701283200252131890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-7133888809516592182019-07-11T22:11:32.429-05:002019-07-11T22:11:32.429-05:00I went on my first drug patrol in 1978, the pilot ...I went on my first drug patrol in 1978, the pilot said "where going out to do our part to keep the price of drugs up on the street." He was right, that was 40+ years ago & nothing has changed.<br /><br />It costs the tax payers around $31,000 a year to keep a human locked up in the US so someone has been doing ok.<br /><br />I think it's about control.Robhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05450082315014407506noreply@blogger.com