tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post552341259404742288..comments2024-03-28T12:13:06.135-05:00Comments on Bayou Renaissance Man: More background on the Ebola issuePeterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-58870154410553687692014-10-02T20:17:58.455-05:002014-10-02T20:17:58.455-05:00As I explained extensively in comments to you at m...As I explained extensively in comments to you at my site, boyd, "handling" Ebola patients for the average hospital stops at about 1 or 2, in rare cases maybe 10, before the exercise loses you the entire hospital for any other use.<br /><br />The Dallas hospital in question is a 968-bed facility. You can't have potential Ebola patients sitting in the waiting room next to pregnant mothers and people with broken arms, unless you're <i>trying</i> to graduate from epidemic to pandemic.<br /><br />The "experts" told us Ebola getting here was "unlikely". Barely a month ago, they told us it would only hit 20K patients in West Africa, total. They (now) readily acknowledge that the actual number of cases there is probably 2-3 times the "official" numbers, and that the toll could climb into the millions by New Years'.<br /><br />When I quote "experts" in this, it's frequently to underline how far off they are, or to note that things are much worse than they've considered.<br />Not because I'm in lockstep with their every pronouncement.<br /><br />There is thus no contradiction involved.<br /><br />Please bear that in mind, and thanks for reading.<br /><br />And thanks to BRM for the link.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-84255670030667616712014-10-02T14:31:53.126-05:002014-10-02T14:31:53.126-05:00Liquid bleach does degrade over time, depending on...Liquid bleach does degrade over time, depending on temperature of storage. If stored in a cellar at 60 F, probably triple the shelf life of bleach stored at 90 F.<br /><br />50% Bleach concentration is WAY more than necessary. If your bleach is new at full concentration, 5% is sufficient. If it is a year old, 10% is fine. In food service, we used the health department guidelines that you add bleach to water “until you can smell the bleach.” <br /><br />In our laboratory (BSL3), we use no higher concentration than 10% for ANYTHING. Not needed, and it just eats countertops and protective garments if used in too high a concentration.<br /><br />Got a link to Tamara’s advice today from my father, a Ph.D. Virologist and epidemiologist from way, WAY back. He says, this is why it won’t spread in the US. Her poster on US health practices for Ebola said:<br /><br /> Stay home if you are sick<br /> Wash your hands regularly<br /> Do not eat fruit bats<br /> Do not fondle the dead<br /> Do not kill health care workers<br /><br />The difference between US and Central Africa is that this advice will mostly be followed, here. Please take a deep breath.<br /><br />FormerFlyer<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-54124674233683214852014-10-02T13:50:46.766-05:002014-10-02T13:50:46.766-05:00I have 5ea of 3 different suit sizes, in case they...I have 5ea of 3 different suit sizes, in case they are needed, well over 100 masks and 1000 pairs of gloves. I picked them up earlier this year, on Peter's first recommendation. Just one unopened gallon of bleach, given its' degradation rate, but 10 lbs of calcium hypochlorite (picked up originally for water treatment).<br /><br />We shall see. I'm not holing up yet, but am paying a lot more attention to where my hands touch. If those secondary folks start getting sick, I'll be wearing gloves and mask outside the house.tweellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164718561825615886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-78540131739817869182014-10-02T10:13:31.350-05:002014-10-02T10:13:31.350-05:00The author contradicts himself by quoting an exper...The author contradicts himself by quoting an expert; " Experts say any fully-equipped hospital that follows safety protocols could prevent an American outbreak while caring for an Ebola patient. But there are four high-level isolation units designed especially to handle dreaded infectious diseases."<br /><br />and then, in his conclusions saying; " there are a total of four facilities in the entire US capable of properly handling Ebola patients without spreading the disease and making it worse" <br /><br />My local private hospital, definitely on the bottom rung of hospitaldom, has isolation space in their ICU with HEPA and UV treatment of exhaust air... You do not need a BSL4 facility to treat people with airborne diseases (which this is not, yet). Liberia has a health / safety system that reflects their economy: poor. We don't.<br /><br />None of my comments are to say people shouldn't be prepared. I was a scout too, I couldn't capitalize on Peter's recommendations to stock up, because I've had a decent supply of everything he listed for many years now. -Boydboydhttps://washingtonarmscollectors.org/education-training-2/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-66077179486936818512014-10-02T07:34:04.091-05:002014-10-02T07:34:04.091-05:00Regular household bleach loses about 50% of it'...Regular household bleach loses about 50% of it's strength after 6 months or so of storage.<br /><br />Better to buy the shock pool treatment powder and use it to make "bleach". It's calcium hypochlorate, but it works. And it stores as long as it's sealed well. <br /><br />Google around, there are recipe's for mixing and use.STxRynnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-15358239349055207002014-10-01T21:49:05.895-05:002014-10-01T21:49:05.895-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.c w swansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02735507642689652780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-3215429273539964672014-10-01T21:48:46.757-05:002014-10-01T21:48:46.757-05:00Just on PBS this evening they had a know it all do...Just on PBS this evening they had a know it all doctor state with a straight face that ending air travel to infectious areas would not work, in spite of the fact that such a policy would have kept our Liberian vector out of the country. The "journalist" did not call him on it, although to my wife's annoyance I found myself shouting at the TV over this obvious contradiction. If this is the quality of people in charge of keeping ebola under control, we do indeed have something to worry about.c w swansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02735507642689652780noreply@blogger.com