tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post7554313273861802401..comments2024-03-28T23:57:50.103-05:00Comments on Bayou Renaissance Man: America's food chain: interesting - and vulnerable?Peterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-16278894221143161652019-11-24T08:33:41.509-06:002019-11-24T08:33:41.509-06:00@Dead Messenger: I have the pleasure of knowing a...@Dead Messenger: I have the pleasure of knowing a large number of people living in rural areas. I'd say ten to twenty per cent of them do their own processing (canning, slaughtering, etc.) The rest have long since gone over to buying processed foods from supermarkets.<br /><br />I'm glad you and yours can look after yourselves, both now and in the event of an emergency. However, I submit you're in a fairly small minority.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-67621418082615327532019-11-24T06:50:00.189-06:002019-11-24T06:50:00.189-06:00The author must be a real city boy to think that r...The author must be a real city boy to think that rural people need their crops processed for them. I grew up a city boy and even I know better than that. The only processed food we need is the food we can ourselves. Plenty of people in our area know how to butcher animals. I could take deer from my porch. Everyone in my area outside the city limits has their own well. I think you get the point by now. If you don't, you never will. Dead Messengerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17403721240020715090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-33547046097726827072019-11-17T19:28:46.565-06:002019-11-17T19:28:46.565-06:00Water is more the urban weak link than food. LA an...Water is more the urban weak link than food. LA and Southern CA are in a desert.<br />NYC gets its water through huge aging piplines many miles away in the mountains.<br />3 weeks without food. 3 days without water. Checkmate.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06203709938003689049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-43918876320554828722019-11-16T08:31:47.622-06:002019-11-16T08:31:47.622-06:00I wonder what the map would look like if you subtr...I wonder what the map would look like if you subtracted processed food from the equation?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-20799485531238976292019-11-15T19:06:05.586-06:002019-11-15T19:06:05.586-06:00As Raptor said things can get sideways in a hurry....As Raptor said things can get sideways in a hurry. I live on I80 in Wyoming. They very very frequently shut that bitch down at the slightest amount of snow due to frequent blizzard conditions. You shut down a segment of a couple hundred miles for half a day to two days and you have tens of thousands of trucks stopped dead. It takes hours at best to get them all moving (Assuming one of those morons does not crash and shut it down again which.. nearly always happens) Then what happens is there are secondary closures when towns and cities have no where else to put trucks so they shut it down to the next major town/city. Hell you would not have to wipe out cities. Make yourself a few IEDs that blow up parts of interstates and now you're talking about shut down and delays with trucks.<br />Jesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17973419641321027031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-22668124732428035732019-11-15T16:53:39.843-06:002019-11-15T16:53:39.843-06:00Don't have to cut off the processing or packag...Don't have to cut off the processing or packaging points, really. Take out one or two distribution centers and, thanks to the joys of just-in-time inventorying, you can bring a major urban area - or even a geographic region - to its knees.<br /><br />Back when I worked in The Supermarket, we had one winter where the area where our store's primary distribution center was located got hit with at least one major snow event a week for about two months. Played hell with our supply chain, to the point where we didn't get numerous items back in stock for weeks. We never ran out of food, just didn't have the wide selection that was the norm.<br /><br />To hear the customers REEEEEEEE-ing, you'd have thought that a) there was ABSOLUTELY NOTHING left on the shelves, b) we were deliberately not ordering any new product, and c) we were doing to personally spite/inconvenience whichever specific customer was complaining to us right then.<br /><br />I shudder to think about what WILL happen when the trucks do actually stop completely.Raptorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14731103493582041052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-33506535941155822942019-11-15T11:17:49.273-06:002019-11-15T11:17:49.273-06:00I really laugh at the snowflakes who strut and pre...I really laugh at the snowflakes who strut and preen about civil war. They're not thinking about where their food, water, gas electric and Internet come from.Jerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09512155016462081947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-51042916400273058262019-11-15T10:47:43.643-06:002019-11-15T10:47:43.643-06:00Interesting map and comments... Once again reinfor...Interesting map and comments... Once again reinforces the issues with food transportation to major cities.Old NFOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404197287935017147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-56631334928892132862019-11-15T10:19:27.283-06:002019-11-15T10:19:27.283-06:00A brief diversion, but I will argue not really off...A brief diversion, but I will argue not really off-topic:<br /><br />1. There are 3 major macronutrient groups: Protein, Fat, Carbohydrate.<br /><br />2. Proteins are composed of Amino Acids, some of which your body can manufacture, some of which must be in your diet. The latter are known as "Essential Amino Acids". All of these are available in meat. A carefully chosen, diverse vegetarian diet MAY contain them.<br /><br />3. Fats are composed of fatty acids, and similarly, there are certain ones known as Essential Fatty Acids. All of these are available in meat. A carefully chosen, diverse vegetarian diet MAY contain them, but probably in poor ratios of Omega-3 to Omega-6.<br /><br />4. There are no essential carbohydrates. You can live a healthy (healthier?) life with zero carbs in your diet. Meat has very few carbs; most come from plants.<br /><br />The bottom line is that if you can obtain and process meat, you can live and prosper. Humans have been processing meat for at least 100,000 years, with even primitive stone tools.<br /><br />In the rural counties, meat animals such as cows, sheep, chickens, and pigs are numerous. In urban counties, the only meat available in large quantities (without transportation) is human flesh.<br /><br />I think I'll be moving from the city to the country before the next election. Just sayin'lpdbwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05907614631157447342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-90193251320703712122019-11-15T08:39:04.100-06:002019-11-15T08:39:04.100-06:00Remember though, there are very educated and alleg...Remember though, there are very educated and allegedly 'smart' people out there who think a nuclear war can be won. This one reason why it can not. Just nuking the major ports of entry and processing would cause a hell of a lot of problems. Bad enough America no longer has a civil defense nor are citizens urged to exercise some initiative and take care of themselves. Most are too dumb to keep a flashlight, a cheap propane camp stove, and some soup around to even help themselves a few days. The Lab Managerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17314871529571094106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-61214255369772542042019-11-15T07:26:55.961-06:002019-11-15T07:26:55.961-06:00You assume the urban folks NEED to have that food ...You assume the urban folks NEED to have that food processed. <br /><br />They don't. They don't *need* cereal. nor corn chips, nor do they need their grain ground into flour to make bread, or have the bread baked for them. They don't *NEED* the cattle ground into hamburger, nor the steaks cut up and packaged on plastic trays. <br /><br />The urban folks DO need the food, in any form, in order to eat. B https://www.blogger.com/profile/10586046436233366155noreply@blogger.com