tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post7933688398505565674..comments2024-03-29T09:53:45.879-05:00Comments on Bayou Renaissance Man: Gay marriage and the Catholic Church's loss of moral authorityPeterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-16246428508943672102015-05-27T13:01:11.109-05:002015-05-27T13:01:11.109-05:00Wraith has it, dead-nuts.
Being a Catholic and al...Wraith has it, dead-nuts.<br /><br />Being a Catholic and also having lived in a rotten Diocese, I couldn't agree more with him.<br /><br />Peter, please look up Descartes' aphorism about salvation. Please.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-24806870090701920002015-05-26T18:08:31.273-05:002015-05-26T18:08:31.273-05:00Following the referendum from the north of the isl...Following the referendum from the north of the island I would offer two thoughts.<br /><br />Peter is quite accurate in his observation that the moral failing of the church over child abuse has scorched away the once absolute position of the Catholic Church in Ireland as its moral arbiter.<br /><br />I would suggest the support for gay marriage is that, in the absence of the church's authority against, Irish men and women looked at their gay and lesbian compatriots and could see no moral or rational reason for denying one part of their nation the same opportunity to fulfill that which they have been taught is the ultimate expression of commitment between two people in love.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13533824594598791518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-81815411679552236982015-05-26T17:29:37.005-05:002015-05-26T17:29:37.005-05:00I stopped participating and going to Mass because ...I stopped participating and going to Mass because I could not continue supporting the Church as it stood. Our bishop was one of the pedophile facilitators and avoided criminal charges only by turning states' evidence. Then he was convicted of a hit and run death, after lying to the court about not knowing what he hit - as if you can hit a 250lb man, get your windshield smashed in and still claim you believed you hit a bird or small animal! I still remember the rage I felt when reading that he had moved a predator to my local church and its' elementary school.<br /><br />I am a simple Catholic. Putting people like that in charge of the Faith destroyed my regard for the Church as an institution. It has not returned.tweellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08164718561825615886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-33226907703621552072015-05-26T12:02:00.040-05:002015-05-26T12:02:00.040-05:00I have no problem with the concept of a "God&...I have no problem with the concept of a "God"<br />...it's all the religions I don't get!Tal Hartsfeldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05077424958233740898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-49491707510112572382015-05-26T11:25:04.105-05:002015-05-26T11:25:04.105-05:00Christianity is in crisis pretty much everywhere t...Christianity is in crisis pretty much everywhere these days... But your post and that last sentence DO bring it home. I hope he DOES have mercy on us.Old NFOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404197287935017147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-54674345090380347582015-05-26T10:26:10.572-05:002015-05-26T10:26:10.572-05:00I found this recent article at American Thinker to...I found this recent article at American Thinker to be on point <a rel="nofollow">'Why Official Christianity is Dying'</a><br /><br />Christianity in the post-19th century world downplayed the inherent sinfulness of man. <br /><br /><i>There it was. Man was so depraved that God had to save men apart from any merit (or work) that men could do. All that was required was trust in the work of Christ on the cross. Salvation had been dumbed down, as it were, because men were that dumb. Salvation was absolutely free, but only if one admitted he was incapable of doing perfect good. And that was the rub!<br /><br />Most men do not like to admit they're are hopelessly rotten. Certainly not Marxists or Muslims.</i>JK Brownnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-23003452040565254492015-05-26T08:22:19.524-05:002015-05-26T08:22:19.524-05:00"They're more in love with the institutio..."They're more in love with the institution of the Church than they are with the person of Christ - and that leaves the rest of us out in the cold."<br /><br />This is unarguable true. But it has been unarguably true of the Catholic hierarchy quite often throughout its history. That is a lot of what drove the reformation. <br /><br />So, you can fight for the Church that you have loved, knowing that its structure will resist you by its very nature. Or you can become a Protestant.<br /><br />So long as you listen to your conscience, I doubt that God cares much.C. S. P. Schofieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18307088118631856756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-29627160106764470122015-05-26T06:39:15.526-05:002015-05-26T06:39:15.526-05:00I'm a Catholic and have to agree with you - yo...I'm a Catholic and have to agree with you - you have to stand by your beliefs, not cave in due to wanting to be seen as 'Progressive' The new attitude I think is wanting to boost Catholics in pews, nothing less.<br /><br />The scandals of molestation by the priests should have been dealt with a long time ago, not swept under the rug.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-55785035298583123772015-05-26T06:03:21.594-05:002015-05-26T06:03:21.594-05:00Perhaps there is hope for your church. The Archbis...Perhaps there is hope for your church. The Archbishop for Kansas City was recently forced to "retire" by the Pope because of his failure to follow up on allegations of abuse by a priest who is now in prison.<br /><br />I grieve for your crisis of faith, but the base philosophy will endure and you can celebrate that.Gafferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09765204313264301299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-50959451085775614042015-05-25T23:07:55.836-05:002015-05-25T23:07:55.836-05:00People are people. They fail. Concupiscence happen...People are people. They fail. Concupiscence happens. <br /><br />The Church is animated by the Holy Spirit. And God is both Just and Merciful. There will be a Final Judgement, and things will be set right.<br /><br />"The troubles of this age are as nothing to the glory to be revealed in us."<br /><br />If these are the troubles, well, the glory will be all the greater.<br /><br />May God have Mercy on all of us, even those who have wronged us. Otherwise, we'll all wind up in Hell. I have faith in Him. My job is to do my part, stick to that, and try not to fuck it up too much. It's all I know to do, Father. Oratre pro me, sacerdos. Pax Domine vobiscum sempitaernum.TinCan Assassinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01680618418991333460noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-70233017209221227412015-05-25T20:43:59.573-05:002015-05-25T20:43:59.573-05:00I recently read an article that I am still trying ...I recently read an article that I am still trying to wrap my head around http://www.crisismagazine.com/2015/the-protohomosexual<br /><br />My current understanding of this article is that people, normal heterosexuals, approve of homosexuals and homosexual marriage because it gives us a "pass" for our own shortcomings and sexual Christians.<br /><br />If we exercised discernment and decided that homosexual behavior was not God's plan, then we would next have to examine our own behaviors and priorities.<br /><br />Virtually no other living being can practice coitus at times when the female is not "receptive". God gave us the gift of sexual expression to bind us to the other parent of our children. It is the sticky stuff on the duct tape. Repeated use of duct tape destroys that sticky stuff. It becomes incapable of functioning as tape.<br /><br />The Christian ethic does not forbid causal sex because it is a kill-joy religion. The Christian ethic forbids causal sex because it destroys one of the unique gifts that God gave us to bind our families and to increase the odds of raising morally competent souls.<br /><br />I heard this argument from a fellow deer hunter, not from a pulpit. And that is evidence of nonfeasance. Eaton Rapids Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09102166969915526172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-45324362540388886072015-05-25T19:49:09.814-05:002015-05-25T19:49:09.814-05:00@Wraith: I may have lost faith in the Catholic Ch...@Wraith: I may have lost faith in the Catholic Church, but I certainly haven't lost faith in God. I fear His justice, but I hope in His mercy. In the end, that's all any of us have.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-44480614556140942162015-05-25T19:30:35.877-05:002015-05-25T19:30:35.877-05:00All I know is, the institution I served for many y...<i>All I know is, the institution I served for many years, and in which I had faith, is no longer there...<br /><br /><br /><br />They're more in love with the institution of the Church than they are with the person of Christ...</i><br /><br />Brother, I'm not a Catholic(and I'm a pretty sorry excuse for a Christian, though I try). I don't know if any one denomination has all the answers. But it grieves me to see your loss of faith, and I'm thinking maybe you're looking at it from the wrong perspective. Perhaps contemplation of the two paragraphs above will shed some light.<br /><br />Our friend Ann posits that "...as long as one valid Mass is being said somewhere on Earth, the Church still exists." Perhaps the INSTITUTION of the Church has been soiled by corruption and human frailty, but it's not about the institution; IT'S ABOUT CHRIST. The Bride of Christ doesn't exist in a building, a book, a collar, a robe or a funny hat. His Church exists in His followers. "Whenever two or more are gathered in My name, there I shall be."<br /><br />I believe you, Ann, and every follower of God in Christ--you ARE the True Church, no matter what Marxist pedophiles they stock the institution with. If I am mistaken, may God forgive my blasphemy...but that's the way I see it.<br /><br />May the Lord bless and keep you, and may He make His face to shine upon you.Wraithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02791730539181731523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-17658878308051818562015-05-25T19:22:57.716-05:002015-05-25T19:22:57.716-05:00I fear you have the right of it, Peter. As is the ...I fear you have the right of it, Peter. As is the case with the leadership of our once-great nation . . . . .JohninMd.(HELP?!??)noreply@blogger.com