tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post8492750162652966047..comments2024-03-28T03:06:18.182-05:00Comments on Bayou Renaissance Man: "Russia Lives The Lie" in SyriaPeterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-66219787198571239262016-02-11T08:54:15.876-06:002016-02-11T08:54:15.876-06:00while the comparison to Vietnam is possible the re...while the comparison to Vietnam is possible the remark that the south only survived with help of the USA forgets the point that the North only could aggress with the help of Russia and China.<br /><br />in my view it is a dishonest analogy. General P. Malaisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12254206981855750578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-69416843158383429002016-02-10T22:41:08.451-06:002016-02-10T22:41:08.451-06:00I thought I heard also that there are competing in...I thought I heard also that there are competing interests trying to build oil/gas pipelines through Syria with Russians interests on one side. Can't remember where I heard that. <br /><br />MechAg94Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-69676771170991906162016-02-10T21:01:50.486-06:002016-02-10T21:01:50.486-06:00Russia lost 14k in Afghanistan. Us 30k in Vietnam....Russia lost 14k in Afghanistan. Us 30k in Vietnam.<br /><br />S. Vietnam fell after the us congress stopped supporting the gov.<br /><br />Same thing happened in Afghanistan.<br /><br />Russian cost in Syria I has been minor. Ukraine has been much bigger.<br /><br />Cost to Europe of refugees is a huge destabilize. Russia is getting a huge payoff for minimal cost.<br /><br />1. Shows they stand by their allies.<br />2. Destabilizes Europe<br />3. Forces us and Europe to negotiate with them.<br />4. Embarasses the us.<br />5. Kills Sunnis / radical Islamist.<br />6. Gives Russia influences in Middle East they have not had since 73.<br />7. Shows Russia is a world power.<br />8. Hurts Saudis / gulf states <br />9. Showcases Russian military technology<br />10. Distracts from Ukraine<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-5335276091122141592016-02-10T17:46:32.360-06:002016-02-10T17:46:32.360-06:00Russia did the same thing in Afghanistan, on a lar...Russia did the same thing in Afghanistan, on a larger basis, intervening to prop up a faltering ally, and took a bigger hit that we did in Vietnam (just not as widely known in the West). <br />10+ years later they went into Chechnya and got hurt badly again - this could be the third time for them, depending on how they play their cards. <br />I don't see Syria becoming anything more than a semi-failed state; the Assad regime has so alienated everybody except their core supporters that I don't see how he can get full control back even with Russian help. For him the 'best case' scenario may be to officially run the country but have areas he doesn't control, like Saddam in Iraq in the 1990's or the tribal areas of Pakistan have been for decades.Jonathan Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10476185257203343474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-90307330407304048922016-02-10T14:08:53.168-06:002016-02-10T14:08:53.168-06:00Difference: Russia don't give a rodent's p...Difference: Russia don't give a rodent's posterior if they get embarrassed.richard mcenroehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10659450906647134430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-83166450138317383702016-02-10T11:04:04.613-06:002016-02-10T11:04:04.613-06:00The magical American foreign policy is what makes ...The magical American foreign policy is what makes it so complex. <br />ISIS and the rebels are functionally the same. You fund the rebels, you fund ISIS. <br />We've got a lot of 'facts' don't exist apart from the narrative, like Russians violating Turkish airspace, or Assad using chemical weapons. <br />There is a weird inertia in D.C., where they have to stick to the narrative. The Russians got into this to support Assad, which makes perfect sense. They also got into it because they saw a lot of the terrorists they had to fight in Chechnya had gone to Syria. American foreign policy had conveniently put most of these idiots in one place. So, the Russians realized it would be better to fight them in Syria rather than have them come back home, and then having to fight them.<br /><br />Augusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08758314961163692341noreply@blogger.com