tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post8615349999086866116..comments2024-03-28T23:57:50.103-05:00Comments on Bayou Renaissance Man: A brutal truth remains politically incorrect - but nevertheless truePeterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10595089829300831372noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-19675386903479558192021-12-03T01:39:06.808-06:002021-12-03T01:39:06.808-06:00Just legalise the lot. Then they can be certified,...Just legalise the lot. Then they can be certified, regulated, and taxed. Then use the same measures that worked with cigarettes.Quartzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02728493448992671955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-69760065662822839372021-12-02T13:19:48.815-06:002021-12-02T13:19:48.815-06:00Which is what happens when dealers put carfentanil...Which is what happens when dealers put carfentanil into heroin.<br /><br />That's a feature, not a bug.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-62041059216924038202021-12-02T10:34:49.916-06:002021-12-02T10:34:49.916-06:00Opium War 2.0
And 100,000 die from overdoses each...Opium War 2.0<br /><br />And 100,000 die from overdoses each year in the US, a 30% increase from the previous year.Ray - SoCalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11293232996007277071noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-79673044714619839632021-12-02T00:40:17.607-06:002021-12-02T00:40:17.607-06:00The beauty of federalism is you don't have to ...The beauty of federalism is you don't have to shoot your foot off to see what it feels like.<br /><br />Come to Califrutopia if you want to see how it's working out just to legalize weed.<br /><br />Then tell me that's where you want your state to be in a couple of years.<br /><br />Then explain to the class how adding cocaine, heroin, meth, etc., to that list would be MOAR BETTER!<br /><br />The stupid answers are always stupid, and they don't get any brighter for not having been tried.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-15747744932838928112021-12-01T23:14:43.173-06:002021-12-01T23:14:43.173-06:00Eliminate the War On Drugs, and many of the overdo...Eliminate the War On Drugs, and many of the overdoses would stop…because the junkies would know what they were buying, and how strong it was. <br /><br />And there’s a lesson from Prohibition that is too often overlooked; if we decide after a spell that a piece of legislation was a mistake, we can repeal the damn thing. So, let’s try legalizing most if not all drugs. If it males a bigger mess than the War on Drugs has (which I doubt) we can ban them again.<br /><br />And, lastly, if the War On Drugs has caused even ONE person with chronic pain to have to do without effective pain relief, I don’t care how many junkies the ‘War’ is supposed to have saved; it’s barbarous.C. S. P. Schofieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18307088118631856756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-38187187507194710952021-12-01T21:21:03.700-06:002021-12-01T21:21:03.700-06:00Cigarettes are bad for people but don't even c...Cigarettes are bad for people but don't even come close to the harm caused by more serious drugs. Even booze or old school ditch weed. <br /><br />A two pack a day junkie is about $10-20 US most of that tax. Such a person can function in every way required by society and while it may shorten one's life sometimes and smells nasty, that's about it. <br /><br />As for drugs, its not just a demand side issue. Unless you have secure borders, a functional society and a willingness to punish nations that don't what is required on their end , no demand side efforts will work especially Neo Puritan punitive measures.<br /><br />After you get the first three, you can let them die but not before. Also give so many of the people dying are young enough to have kids , if you know you'd like to have a population ,. best to make sure people live and get clean. 5stonegameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10694550968360550229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-81770985599993950382021-12-01T21:12:00.538-06:002021-12-01T21:12:00.538-06:0031 years clean, and yes, even growing up with a gl...31 years clean, and yes, even growing up with a glaring example of the dangers of addiction, my take was that if I just didn't drink, I wouldn't be like him...what a crock.(I was worse. From growing up in a house of Anger, to building one of my own.) he got sober in '77, and watched me walk that path for 13 years before I went to him and asked for help. I got to spend the last 9 1/2 years of his life in recovery with him, and I didn't get loaded when he passed. Still haven't; accepting personal responsibility and getting truly honest with myself, and everybody else, getting some childhood trauma dealt with, along with working a program, has made so much possible for me, it would take days to describe it. I have seen many try to get clean, some succeed, and many more fail - they just weren't ready, or not desperate enough, I guess. Pray for the addicts who still use, but don't enable their behavior. My old man was the first to break the cycle, and I'm grateful that he did, because he was there for me when I became willing to break it, too.<br />-Kv Ironkowboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08522790428729743362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-61344259188407416962021-12-01T18:26:21.245-06:002021-12-01T18:26:21.245-06:00Peter,
Good on yer for staying off the cigarettes...Peter,<br /><br />Good on yer for staying off the cigarettes. I quit almost 17 years ago. I had quit many times before, but this time it was actually easy. The difference was that this time I actually flipped that switch in my head, and decided to actually quit. One box of full-strength lozenges, one box half-strength, one box of gum and out. The physical addiction is gone in a few weeks, everything left is between your ears. I have never looked back.<br /><br />But yes, I WANT A EFFING CIGARETTE.Temnotahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09121773949362842711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-45816799321907164772021-12-01T16:15:51.887-06:002021-12-01T16:15:51.887-06:00@MMinWA,
Srsly?
That's pure idiocy, distille...@MMinWA,<br /><br />Srsly?<br /><br />That's pure idiocy, distilled, born of world-class intellectual laziness.<br /><br />Who's going to pay for those "free" drugs? <i>You</i>? Or did you think to pick everyone else's pockets for your cunning plan? Do you think drugs are cost-free ever, anywhere? What about store staff salaries, location rents and leases, utilities, etc. for those operations? (Are you a Democrat? An acolyte of Evita Guevara-Castro, perhaps?)<br /><br />You gonna give it to children of any age too? 16 years old? 12? 5? In infant formula?<br /><br />If not, why not?<br /><br />What happens when kids get the drugs from their stoned parents' stash? You're going to announce the War On Kid's Drugs? Kill the parents? Or what...??<br /><br />What do you call prosecuting <i>the exact same drug war to keep drugs away from children</i> that you'd give away free to adults?<br /><br />When the cartels get a vote, and burn out your free drug locations, because it's bad for their business, what will you do about them? Announce the new improved War On Cartels?<br /><br />When addiction surges to 1000 or 10000% of current numbers, what are you going to do with the people who show up in my ER, except are then <i>the entire ER</i>? What about the <i>innocent victims</i> they'll create while neglecting their kids stoned, driving stoned, or just wandering stoned into traffic? Like they do <i>right now</i>?<br />("<i>F**k that schoolbus. It's their fault for driving on the road with drug addicts.</i>"??) <br /><br />Just how far would you carry this <i>laissez-faire</i> idiocy?<br /><br />Those were rhetorical questions, because to answer them would be to admit to cretinism, which is already self-evident.<br /><br />Please, sir, turn your brain back on before again suggesting something so flatly the progeny of a horse and a donkey. At this point, it's simply embarrassing for you.<br /><br />Delete your suggestion, and let's return to the <i>status quo ante</i>, and we'll say no more of such utter retarded nonsense.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-1142514069137618472021-12-01T15:53:23.447-06:002021-12-01T15:53:23.447-06:001) The article misidentifies fentanyl as the old p...1) The article misidentifies fentanyl as the old problem.<br /><i> 't isn't.<b> Carfentanil</b></i> is. <br />Carfentanil is to fentanyl what GHB is to nitrous oxide.<br />Now look up Gell-Mann Amnesia Effect.<br /><br />2) Drugs, <i>per se</i>, have never been the problem.<br />They're no more nor less dangerous than AR-15s or chainsaws. <br /><i>Addicts and dealers are the problem.</i><br />Shoot the dealers on the first strike, and the addicts after two previous strikes, and the problem self-corrects in short order.<br /><i>That's what you do in an actual <b>war</b></i>.<br />Get in one, or get out.Aesophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07834464741531503378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-79957147787534434222021-12-01T15:51:10.363-06:002021-12-01T15:51:10.363-06:00Drugs have long been used to finance communism whi...Drugs have long been used to finance communism while demoralizing the west. You don't see it mentioned as much in right leaning circles these days, but "Red Cocaine: The Drugging of America" by Joseph D. Douglass was perhaps the best documented book about how the communists pushed drugs on America.Brutushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11152278031028909806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-11173075188567796762021-12-01T14:33:47.282-06:002021-12-01T14:33:47.282-06:00I've suspected for a few years now that China ...I've suspected for a few years now that China is using the Zwilniks as a delivery system for chemical warfare.<br />The economics of the drug trade often make no sense, and having an occasional batch of 10% heroin / 90% cheap filler unexpectedly be 100% heroin seems like a waste of both money and customers.<br />... Amazing how prescient some aspects of the <i>Lensman</i> series are suddenly looking!Eric Wilnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04351991168469225129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-59493285522317224012021-12-01T14:20:27.915-06:002021-12-01T14:20:27.915-06:00Well, to all those who want to abolish Narcan, I s...Well, to all those who want to abolish Narcan, I say there is a valid excuse for its existence. People who are legally on pain killers can have situations that will cause their bodies to not process the painkillers and thus go into a non-purposeful overdose. I know one person who had that happen regularly after a brain bleed which affected everything. In that case Narcan was a life-saver several times. She got better.<br /><br />It's the overavailability and overuse for recreational users of drugs that pisses me, and apparently everyone else here, totally off. Those are the jerks that need to stop being saved from their own stupidity.<br /><br />Slow suicide is what it is. So let them. Save them once and once only. Let them learn once and then let them be free to dirtnap themselves.Beanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15293778848879361153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-11689929665823886782021-12-01T14:09:07.670-06:002021-12-01T14:09:07.670-06:00Lots of like minded people commenting above.
Ditt...Lots of like minded people commenting above.<br /><br />Ditto.<br /><br />MMinWA wrote what I am thinking.<br /><br />No public $ for healthcare at all.<br />No mandate to treat indigents.<br /><br />Prices would drop like a stone.<br /> markshere2https://www.blogger.com/profile/16168054097485759501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-27894764845179759532021-12-01T13:27:47.687-06:002021-12-01T13:27:47.687-06:00As far as cigarettes go, the US government was my ...As far as cigarettes go, the US government was my "pusher". As a kid in basic training, when on a work detail the sarge would let only smokers take a break and threatened anyone trying to bum on - "Smoke 'em if you got 'em" ONLY. They would provide free miniature packs of cigarettes in rations and were ridiculously cheap in the PX. I finally quit when the state decided to raise the tax by $1 a pack overnight to offset reductions in tax revenues on real estate. True to my nature I said Screw That!<br /><br />I still believe it to be a choice, so the drug problem is on the user not the supplier. Everyone KNOWS it is illegal and easily fatal.oldvet1950https://www.blogger.com/profile/17332788585533569757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-14675472073023214392021-12-01T12:55:10.722-06:002021-12-01T12:55:10.722-06:00You will need to repeal 19A. As with welfare, the ...You will need to repeal 19A. As with welfare, the homeless, the $240T of unfunded social security and medicare liabilities, our response to drug abuse is empathy-based and so downstream from 19A. All major pathologies in America are the result of 19A. Face it - political power in the hands of women is destroying the West; they vote to be taken care of - not to be free to take care of themselves. And as long as men will vote as their women like, men will get laid. This is how 18A was passed - men voting as women demanded,resulting in the huge spike in organized crime and the only amendment ever repealed. What was no-fault divorce about? Not being kind to women - but enlarging the pool of women dependent on the State: Democrat voters and centralizing power and destruction of individual liberty by regarding the female vote as nice. What is abortion about? What is Affirmative Action about now, three generations after its implementation? What is unionized education about? These - all are about empathy, which is based on lack of responsibility. The result of 19A has been all of these pathologies, plus the fast-accelerating downward trend in education now that women are in the workforce rather than doing the far-more-important job of raising the next generation; the enormous decline in fertility: It's nice to have policies for future generations, but if you have no future generations, what's the point - and how are future citizens supposed to have Western rights when the West depopulates itself and evaporates? The huge increase in housing costs - if both adults are working, they quickly price out of the market both singles and newly-married. If we want to keep the nation (or re-make it) as founded, we'll need the franchise it came with.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02820308793398410476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-20567469987177212032021-12-01T12:41:33.118-06:002021-12-01T12:41:33.118-06:00Wherever Narcan(and garbage like it) is made, bull...Wherever Narcan(and garbage like it) is made, bulldoze the places into dust.<br />Follow the money on all these useless programs. Whoever was bribed to create the laws, whoever paid those bribes, and whoever profits from this insanity...there is a place in Hell for them, but that's to far off in the future(unless we send them there now). Make their lives a living Hell NOW. Find a hellhole, toss them in, throw away the keys, and walk away. They've earned it. Better yet, death sentence, no appeal, no housing and feeding them for decades.<br />We have over 500 billionaires in the U.S. today. What do you want to bet that more than a few of them are the very people I talk about in the above paragraph?<br />It would be a start. Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06519694773471791785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-24052406055230929112021-12-01T12:20:14.382-06:002021-12-01T12:20:14.382-06:00When I worked a contract in a major upper midwest ...When I worked a contract in a major upper midwest city, I quickly learned from the directs that a popular game among them was the "Send a Junkie to Hell" game. Our office was near downtown, and this city has a lot of panhandlers and druggies, who would constantly ask for money. The game was to give at least one of these wretched types $10-$20 every week, and see if they disappeared from their preferred location after a while.(These people had specific locations that they would protect by violence, if needed.)<br />I got to be a regular participant in the game, although I never "won". My wife thinks/thought it was cruel, but I keep harkening back to the adage "Think of It as Evolution in Action".<br />One of the media outlets here in Cincinnati has urged people to buy and keep Narcan in case they see someone OD'ing in the street or something. Me? No thanks; you played Russian Roulette with a Glock semi-auto.Plague Monkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16095438016179061803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-80695409252150752922021-12-01T12:19:33.871-06:002021-12-01T12:19:33.871-06:00@Peteforester My sister-in-law is a lot like your ...@Peteforester My sister-in-law is a lot like your sons. She was a train wreck a long time prior to her family ever moving (their dad was also career military) but when a counselor once gave her the excuse that moving in middle school was the source of her problems, she latched on to that excuse with both hands.<br /><br />I went to eleven different schools and never did drugs or got into any kind of trouble. Put myself through college too. But my three brothers all had drug/alcohol problems. In our case I would say our upbringing was a factor but their actions are 100% on them. There were forks in the road for all of us and they consistently chose the path that required the least of them.<br /><br />SQThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04251030404220909306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-88695674586194395202021-12-01T12:19:21.300-06:002021-12-01T12:19:21.300-06:00Yep. Notch the ear of the person receiving Narcan....Yep. Notch the ear of the person receiving Narcan. If they have the notch, then no additional Narcan help.<br />If they die, then so be it. Their choice. They got the second chance. No additional chances given by society. <br /><br />Lock up people holding recreational type drugs. Work camps for a year. Make sure they come out clean, then let 'em go. If they are caught again, then other, more permanent measures might be necessary....<br /><br />At the end of it, being soft is not working. <br />B https://www.blogger.com/profile/10586046436233366155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-47970803870587524932021-12-01T12:02:14.257-06:002021-12-01T12:02:14.257-06:00Having worked in, well, the drug industry (in an a...Having worked in, well, the drug industry (in an anti-drug task force) I got to see a lot of stuff normal people don't see.<br /><br />Nobody talks about how drug users actively seek out the 'brand' of whatever current drug is killing most people, because they actively seek to skate on that thin line between life and death. <br /><br />And Narcan has made it easier for so many of them to skate on that fine line. Back when the show "Nightwatch" first aired, they regularly showed the New Orleans Fire Department responding to overdosers, and often the overdosee would be violently pissed that the FD removed his/her/its high. And oftentimes the FD knew the overdoser and would say something like, "We revived him three times last week, twice this week," and at the end of the show would be a summary of cases and, yep, Mr/Mrs/Its OD person would have died finally.<br /><br />Then there's the associated crime in even people who legally access but illegally use drugs, let alone the idjits who illegally acces and use. The left tells us that drug use is a 'victimless crime.' And I call bullscat on that. Robbing from families and friends, openly stealing, thefts of all kinds, property destruction, all affects other people (the true victims.)<br /><br />And to make matters worse, these bungholes do it to themselves. The old thing about how doctors made so many addicts has been proven mostly false (yes, some pain users struggle with addiction, but most abusers do it for the feels and the fun.) And they have made it so that proper users of various medications can't get access to them. <br /><br />For instance, back in the late 70's there was a really good anti-allergy medicine, one of the few that actually worked on me. But some jackwagons found that taking pyrabenzamine and a tranquilizer would give a really good 'trip,' well, except for the 10% that stayed down forever. So there goes the one really good anti-allergy drug that didn't make me trip and have bad hallucinations. Thanks, drug abusers, you worthless puss-filled sacks of tumor materials.<br /><br />Here's my solution. Street users get one 'free' cycle of Narcan (it often takes multiple doses, sometimes up to 10 or more.) After that, forget it.<br /><br />And people caught with illegal drugs? They have 2 choices, either get prosecuted fully for what they have or they can escape prosecution by taking all of what they are caught with right then and there. If they George Floyd, so what. Who cares. Problem solved.<br /><br />I am tired of having to play Mr. Goodboy and pay for drugs and pay for syringes and legal paraphernalia for medical use while these jackwagons get free needles, free health care, free drugs (which most of them abuse or don't use.)<br /><br />Tired of it.<br /><br />And we need to attack the source of these drugs, financially and maybe even physically. Start denying the ChiComs the ability to ship stuff to us or Mexico. Start dropping bombs on the Cartels and on the ChiComs. They're waging a war against us, time to fight back.Beanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15293778848879361153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-48297223257776453372021-12-01T11:28:39.278-06:002021-12-01T11:28:39.278-06:00It galls me when I hear drug dealers referred to a...It galls me when I hear drug dealers referred to as "non-violent offenders." These people are MURDERERS. Funny; there's no end of airtime given to "mass shootings," and yet pushers who literally shoot into the crowd are given a pass. These people need to be prosecuted as the killers they are! That's my take on the "supply side." As far as demand goes, you're spot on. The LAST thing we should be doing is providing subsidies and safety nets for addicts. I'm sure that 99.9% of addicts were warned by parents, pastors, and teachers to stay away from the dope, and they didn't listen. I have three sons. Two of them are alcoholics. My family is weak to alcohol, hence, I warned my kids starting at about 12 years old, to stay away from the booze. I also told them why. I pointed to my brother, my uncle, and my great uncle as examples of what happened when the bottle started talking and they started listening. We had a small amount of alcohol in the house, but it was never given a place of honor. We didn't have a liquor cabinet. All of it was kept out of sight. Did my kids listen? Hell, no. They all dove in head first. One of them saw what as happening and pulled back. The other two? One blames me because I was in the military and "dragged him around the country." I was in 21 years. We moved three times; hardly "dragging" my kids around the country. I told my kids that I was a military man and that I would never be able to send them to college on my dime. I DID say, however, that I would make sure they had all the resources necessary so that they could get the scholarships they needed to go. My other alcoholic son did fantastic in school. Did he apply for any scholarships? Despite my repeated prompting and warnings, no. One night he came up to me waving an acceptance letter at me along with a "financial responsibility" form I was supposed to sign. I told him I wouldn't sign it. I told him that there was no magic pot of money, that he had failed to prepare, and that he was going to have to deal with it. To this day he says that my not signing that form drove him to drink. I told both of these kids that no one stuck funnels in their mouths and poured hooch down their throats. THEY decided to drink. THEY went against my warnings, lifted bottles, dumped their contents into their mouths, and their futures down the drain. THEY ruined their own lives!<br /><br />As for me, I'm tired as HELL of everyone making stupid choices and me having to pay their freight! FUGGEMALL! Peteforesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00702888855868877243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-39859621433165351712021-12-01T11:15:00.300-06:002021-12-01T11:15:00.300-06:00I've asserted for many years that there should...I've asserted for many years that there should be a store where any drug is available at cost and you don't need a prescription. You want a handful of oxys? Fine. Meth, reefer, coke...whatever. <br /><br />No Narcan, no ER, no EMTs, you're on your own. Heartless? Nope. If you want to kill yourself with drugs, go right ahead but in the meantime lets take the profit out of this shit.<br /><br /><br />I feel the same way about people eating themselves to death. Why am I on the hook for 100s of billions of dollars for medical care for people that can't control their diets? I walk through grocery stores and continue to be amazed at the poison people fill their carts with. MMinWAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03791810228821770464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-10049106002177513812021-12-01T10:53:11.644-06:002021-12-01T10:53:11.644-06:00As a recovering alcoholic and drug addict (41 yrs ...As a recovering alcoholic and drug addict (41 yrs sober and 38 yrs clean) I have to whole heartedly agree with you Peter. I've done street and jail ministry, cooked in several rescue missions and soup kitchens and it's always somebody else's fault. For the most part.<br />Nobody is taught about consequences anymore. No more narcan says I. We need a Revival. We are a sick nation.<br />Keep up the the Good Work.catfishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05812274935564874737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6244999628674918029.post-5313848125533753512021-12-01T10:45:01.183-06:002021-12-01T10:45:01.183-06:00Holding individuals responsible for their own acti...Holding individuals responsible for their own actions and parents responsible for raising their kids right isn't a good basis for lucrative social programs. Blaming drugs. blaming guns, blaming racism all successfully avoid being responsible for your own behavior. I remember talking to a father who took no responsibility for his children being neglected. He was quite adamant that it wasn't his fault, he had been in prison after all. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Tsgt Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12997121520056731808noreply@blogger.com