A very long and complex article in the German periodical Der Spiegel suggests that Ukraine was behind the Nord Stream pipeline sabotage attacks last year. The original article is behind a paywall, but an archived (i.e. non-paywalled) copy is available. It's far too long to summarize here, but the core findings are as follows.
Officially, politicians and the Office of the Federal Prosecutor are still holding back with any conclusions. Currently, it is not possible to say "this was state-controlled by Ukraine," Federal Prosecutor Otte says. "As far as that is concerned, the investigation is ongoing, much of it still undercover."
Behind the scenes, though, you get clearer statements. Investigators from the BKA, the Federal Police and the Office of the Federal Prosecutor have few remaining doubts that a Ukrainian commando was responsible for blowing up the pipelines. A striking number of clues point to Ukraine, they say. They start with Valeri K., IP addresses of mails and phone calls, location data and numerous other, even clearer clues that have been kept secret so far. One top official says that far more is known than has been stated publicly. According to DER SPIEGEL's sources, investigators are certain that the saboteurs were in Ukraine before and after the attack. Indeed, the overall picture formed by the puzzles pieces of technical information has grown quite clear.
And the possible motives also seem clear to international security circles: The aim, they says, was to deprive Moscow of an important source of revenue for financing the war against Ukraine. And at the same time to deprive Putin once and for all of his most important instrument of blackmail against the German government.
But crucial questions remain unanswered. From how high up was the attack ordered and who knew about it? Was it an intelligence operation that the political leadership in Kyiv learned about only later? Or was it the product of a commando unit acting on its own? Or was it a military operation in which the Ukrainian General Staff was involved? Intelligence experts and security policy experts, however, consider it unlikely that Ukrainian President Zelenskyy was in on it: In cases of sabotage, the political leadership is often deliberately kept in the dark so that they can plausibly deny any knowledge later on.
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Few in Berlin want to think right now about what action should be taken if the involvement of Ukrainian state agencies is proven. On the one hand, Germany couldn't simply brush off such a serious crime. But suspending support for Ukraine in its war against Russia also wouldn't be an option. "Everyone is shying away from the question of consequences," says one member of parliament with a party that is a member of the German government coalition.
The fact that politicians who normally might at least speak off the record are remaining silent and simply ignoring inquiries is an indicator of just how delicate the situation is ... the perception among investigators is that the will to solve the case is not particularly pronounced in the capital. Politically, it is easier to live with what happened if it remains unclear who is behind the attacks. The process is not being hindered, but neither is there much support from the overarching government ministries. Meanwhile, it is clear to career-oriented ministry officials that there is no glory to be had with this case. If only because the culprits will likely never have to answer for their actions in Germany. Even if they could be identified, it's very unlikely they would be extradited.
So Berlin is looking away, and that is definitely being registered in agencies where staff is constantly in short supply and procedures have to be prioritized. All of which leads to the investigation falling down the priority list.
There's much more at the link, including what looks like compelling evidence of Ukrainian involvement.
There's another reason why Ukraine would want to hide its involvement (if any) in the attacks. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) policy is that an attack on the critical infrastructure of any one member is an attack on all members, and calls for a united diplomatic and (if necessary) military response. If Ukraine were proven to be behind the attacks, it would almost automatically forfeit NATO military support in its war with Russia, and its efforts (and the efforts of neocon warmongers in the USA) to demonize Russia would be dealt a critical blow.
I have no idea about the truth of the situation. I suspect very few people do. Nevertheless, the Spiegel investigation appears pretty thorough, and their arguments seem to hold water. I wonder if we'll ever learn the truth from official sources? Your guess is as good as mine.
Peter
A Uke unit may have done the deed but it was the US/UK who made it possible and encouraged the attack.
ReplyDeleteMy gut feeling is UK with British Training and Planning.
ReplyDeleteAnother British Style grand gesture type commando raid.
I'm still putting my money on "shitty Russian pipeline maintenance."
ReplyDeleteIt sure as hell wasn't Russia. Don't think the Ukies gave the resources to do that on their own.
ReplyDeleteCurious. Investigators can pull minute details from a person's past, so obscure they have forgotten it. Yet they can not get a lead on such a huge, recent operation?
ReplyDeleteI doubt it was "shitty pipeline maintenance" since the Nordstrem 2 pipeline wasn't that old. It was completed in September 2021, and hadn't yet been put in service.
ReplyDeleteI agree that it was most likely the US/UK, perhaps with some minor participation by the Ukes. And that is a mission they'll be denying for decades. I suspect any records are long since shredded and burned.
Dunno, it sounds too convenient... Like someone presented the "Easy out" for the escalating war situation there. Not saying it would be bad to take the easy out and get out of that mess, but seems like something beyond the normal capability of that particular country... But what would I know, just an old demo specialist :-)
ReplyDeleteWhoa, taking out the competition ! That makes too much sense.
ReplyDeleteI still like Lawdog's take.
ReplyDeleteIf not from bad maintenance, my vote goes to the Poles rather than that silly story the Germans let out.
ReplyDeleteI think that the story that Der Spiegel broke has false flag written all over it, BRM. There are a number of aspects to to it that sound like newsies trying to justify 6 months of travel expenses.
ReplyDeleteAs far as motive goes, Ukraine was always a top candidate. The problem has always been explaining how they would have done it and still I'm unconvinced that they had the capability to do it.
ReplyDeleteI'm with the skeptics - working that far under water, in a busy and well surveilled area would be a VERY difficult challenge for anyone, let aloythe Ukrainians, who aren't known for their naval skills and equipment and who have few to no assets in the area.
ReplyDeleteI can MAYBE see them playing a bit part with the US and UK, but even that would have been VERY tough
Plenty of suspects. A complete lack of actual proof as to who was responsible.
ReplyDeleteAnd all involved have plenty of reasons to have committed this act and plenty
of reasons to lie about it. As is with so much regarding this conflict we will
likely never know with certainty who actually did what and with help from whom.
I think it was Norwegians. Who is selling gas to Europe now? Norway.
ReplyDeleteThe only thing we know for sure is that Russia didn't blow up their own pipelines. All they had to do to cut their own financial wrists was to turn off the supply at their end.
ReplyDeleteGee, why is it no one seems to remember the cross border Polish military attack on the German radio station in 1939?
ReplyDeleteGiven that Ukraine had been invaded by, and was being murdered by, Russia, I cannot imagine that NATO could contemplate punishing Ukraine in any manner for taking out a major funding source for Russia. That part - the implication that Ukraine taking out that pipeline could be "wrong" or outside the bounds of decent warfare - just doesn't compute.
ReplyDelete@Landroll: Because that attack never took place. It was a German "false flag" operation against their own radio station, in order to justify the Nazi invasion of Poland. The German "operators" killed in the attack were, in fact, concentration camp inmates dressed as radio operators, then killed by their guards, as "evidence" of the Polish "atrocity".
ReplyDeleteBobby the destroying of the pipeline has been the major factor in crippling Germany. I don't suppose you feel that's a problem.
ReplyDeleteOh, and BTW in case you didn't read the earlier comments Russia had ALREADY Turned the Gas Lines off to encourage Germany to re-think their support of the Ukrainian Proxy War.
Frankly despite the coordinated propaganda (when every Mainstream News says the same thing at the same time it's not news...) I understand Germany and even the USA is looking for an off ramp on this war.
Blaming Ukraine for the pipeline is a good start. Just saying.
Well Seasoned Fool, your comment piqued my interest.
ReplyDeleteA SNIP from Lawdogs comments about that pipeline:
As I said in the previous post — and I will continue to say — none of this rules out intentional Acts of War. There are idiots enough in that region that sabotage can’t be discounted