An ominous article in National Geographic is titled "The controversial quest to make a 'contagious' vaccine".
Imagine a cure that’s as contagious as the disease it fights—a vaccine that could replicate in a host’s body and spread to others nearby, quickly and easily protecting a whole population from microbial attacks. That’s the goal of several teams around the world who are reviving controversial research to develop self-spreading vaccines.
Their hope is to reduce infectious disease transmission among wild animals, thereby lowering the risk that harmful viruses and bacteria can jump from wildlife to humans as many experts believe happened with SARS-CoV-2, the virus that caused the COVID-19 pandemic.
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Advocates for self-spreading vaccines say they could revolutionise public health by disrupting infectious disease spread among animals before a zoonotic spillover could occur—potentially preventing the next pandemic.
But others argue that the viruses used in these vaccines could themselves mutate, jump species, or set off a chain reaction with devastating effects across entire ecosystems.
“Once you set something engineered and self-transmissible out into nature, you don't know what happens to it and where it will go,” says Jonas Sandbrink, a biosecurity researcher at the University of Oxford’s Future of Humanity Institute. “Even if you just start by setting it out into animal populations, part of the genetic elements might find their way back into humans.”
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Filippa Lentzos, a science and international security expert at King’s College London, points out that viruses are genetically unstable and prone to frequent mutations; therefore, a self-spreading vaccine virus could evolve to jump species or cause other unknown consequences in wild and domestic animal populations and, perhaps, even in humans.
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Most researchers agree that self-spreading vaccines could never be applied to human populations, because universal informed consent would never be achieved.
“We can't even get people to take a vaccine in a global pandemic. The idea that you would be able to surreptitiously vaccinate the population with a virus without causing riots is just, you know, it's stuff of fantasy. It will never be used in humans,” Redwood says ... “You don't need to be a Rhodes scholar to work out that people will be nervous about a disseminating viral vector. It's a concept that will scare people ... The way that I like to think about it is that it may never be used, but it's better to have something in the cupboard that can be used and is mature if we need it. And to say, ‘Let's just not do this research because it's too dangerous,’ to me, that makes no sense at all.”
There's more at the link.
The researchers are emphatic that this concept is for use only to treat diseases in animals, not human beings: but if it can be made to work in animals, do you really think control freaks like Dr. Fauci won't seize on it as a way to vaccinate anybody and everybody against any and every disease they can think of? "You may not want to be vaccinated, but we have ways and means of giving you the shot, whether you want it or not!" We'd end up infecting each other with the vaccine, as well as the disease.
That's a truly frightening prospect to me . . . but based on the history of science and medicine, I'd say there's a real likelihood that it'll become reality. Researchers mostly seem to ask whether something can be done, but seldom (if ever) whether it should be done. Imagine if everyone on the planet were subject to the same appallingly high rate of post-vaccine complications and reactions that we've seen with COVID-19. Even if we knew the vaccine was potentially dangerous, we'd have no way to opt out of it. The powers that be would absolutely love that.
Even worse, think of it in the context of bacteriological warfare, or even extremist ideology. What if a radical environmentalist, who believes it would be better for Earth if the human race were extinct, was able to develop a "vaccine" that caused sterility? What if one racial group were to develop a "vaccine" that sterilized one race, but not another - or all races except their own? (Don't think that's a pipe dream. There were serious efforts along those lines in South Africa under the apartheid government, back in the 1980's, and I won't be surprised to hear that similar research has been conducted elsewhere since then - Wuhan, perhaps, or similar laboratories?) If such "vaccines" could be circulated through mutual contagion, rather than direct application, think of the consequences.
This scares the hell out of me.
Peter
The way big pharma has been said to be using things like the AIDS virus and RNA in the creation of these injections had made me wonder if they weren't already trying to make a sort of self-spreading "vaccine"
ReplyDeleteMy God these people are mad. Their is no way they could possibly forsee every possible outcome.
ReplyDeleteI may not be a biologist, but I have seen how this kind of idea ends in the movies and it's never good.
ReplyDeleteThe big tall foreheads can't get Windows to run a printer properly, after all these years, but they think they can figure this out, right, the first release? Please do not be offended if I appear skeptical.
ReplyDeleteNever happen. Big Pharma can not get any money from letting people get free immunity.
ReplyDeleteMNW said: "My God these people are mad."
ReplyDeleteThey are indeed mad. That's all that needed to be said. IMO, they need to be stopped with -quickly - before they destroy mankind.
Nobody can dispute the dismal fact that a seven and a half billion world population can be sustainable, we are indeed depleting our resources at a impossible to maintain rate, but is killing off 6 or 7 billion of us the only answer they can come up with?
The elites pushing and funding this sort of worldwide population reduction actually believe they would survive. What would surviving in a world full of billions and billions of rotting corpses be like? A world with no more servants, peons, serfs, manual laborers, no mechanics, no technicians, no one left to harvest the crops, no working class at all?
Nobody left to provide for their needs and wants?
Being rich doesn't mean you own the world. But creating the greatest genocide the world has ever known? So you can own it? Easy. Too bad they haven't realized they won't survive their own created four horsemen.
Doesn't really matter... Those four horsemen are already here.
God help us all.
It's a concept that will scare people..
ReplyDeleteDamn Right! These lunatics think like Fauci.
Even If there is an outbreak, doing the research was worth it.
Idiots who were given chemistry sets for Christmas and never got over wanting to play with fire.
Ummm... Hell no!!!
ReplyDeleteI believe that is how some of the older polio vaccines were supposed to work. The live, weakened polio virus could be spread from the vaccinated to the unvaccinated.
ReplyDeleteAnd Joss Whedon just points to Firefly and Serenity, with a contented look on his face.
ReplyDeleteFor the reporters writing these articles, try and remember humans are animals. I know it's disappointing to find we're just another type of mammal. Maybe take a zoology class instead of gender studies or the art of DC comics.
ReplyDeleteOnly for use in animals? If a virus can jump species, so possibly could the vaccine.
There there now, rest easy. We're just doing it for our own good.
ReplyDeleteI met a traveller from an antique land,
ReplyDeleteWho said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
Shelley
OMG, No!
ReplyDeleteThere are far too many examples of when self-anointed geniuses come up with the "perfect solution," be it in various engineering fields or pharma, up pops, AFTER the fact, that niggly little fact they missed, upsetting the entire apple cart.
Word for geniuses: When you have found the perfect solution, you haven't.
And how will the elites, who want to survive the "weeding out", avoid catching the "Vaccines" themselves? Isolate for a year? Two? Ten?
ReplyDeleteAt what point should we set up crowdfunding for hit teams to eliminate all those who would attempt to create such an obscenity, including those who would fund or direct it? Whistleblower rewards for those who point out these idiots should be included in the pay structure.
ReplyDeleteIf I'm not mistaken, for all history what they are describing has been called a disease.
ReplyDeleteI can see it now - Putting the "vaccine" on blankets which they give to some I̶n̶d̶i̶a̶n̶s̶ homeless people as a clinical trial. Whatever could go wrong?
OK so the problem here is that if they are discussing it in the West, then this is already being done in the PRC. Given the way the wuflu leaked from a lab there, the chances are incredibly high that a partial prototype version of this is going to leak too. In fact, it is quite possible that the reason why the Chicoms are so paranoid about the wuflu and locking cities up when they detect outbreaks is because they fear that they have already done something like this. Whether they have or not, who knows? but the over the top panic is a tell IMHO
ReplyDeleteThe live virus polio vaccine (Sabin) is an attenuated virus (not causing disease). It reproduces in the human gut like the wild virus, is excreted in the feces, is present in sewage and is transmissible from person to person. When a certain fraction of the population has had the live virus polio vaccine, the wild virus disappears from sewage, and is replaced by the vaccine virus. Even in the absence of vaccination, the vaccine virus continues to be present in sewage, indicating person to persoh transmission. The duration of either infection in humans is self-limited.
ReplyDeleteHowever, it can and occasionally does mutate back to the wild-type virus. The wild type virus causes paralytic poliomyelitis in around one in thirty infections, while the vaccine virus deos so in one in three million infections.
Isn't this how 90% of all zombie movies start...
ReplyDelete"as many experts believe happened with SARS-CoV-2, the virus that caused the COVID-19 pandemic"
ReplyDeleteUmm, pretty sure this is not what "many" experts believe. It's what we were told in order to shift blame from the gain of function research lab run by the Chinese and funded by the US government.