Friday, May 30, 2025

Surviving war on a drone battlefield

 

A British expert writes:


The key factor today is the electromagnetic spectrum – he who controls this, controls the battle space and will win the war. The ability to jam the enemy’s signals, and to push your own signals through enemy jamming, confers the ability to operate the most common kinds of drones in any given area. Often a nearby transmission relay – perhaps carried by a “mothership” drone higher above the battlefield – will let drones operate even inside the enemy jamming envelope, as the relay is nearer to the drones than the jammers are and has line of sight to them. In general the Ukrainians have tended to have the upper hand in this electromagnetic struggle, aided at times by harder-to-jam satellite communications such as Elon Musk’s well-known Starlink. But that doesn’t mean they’ve had things all their own way.

The contested electronic environment has seen the advent of drones trailing a hair-fine communications line back to their controller. Some in the media believe these to be a new thing, but in fact these drones appeared quite a long time ago. The line unspools as the drone flies along, in a similar fashion to old-school anti-tank missiles dating back many decades. The comms line can be kilometres long and is completely proof against jamming. This brings a slight smile to old soldiers like me who remember weapons such as the Tube-launched Optically-tracked Wire-guided (TOW) missile, as we see old-fashioned methods overcoming the latest and most brilliant electronic-warfare systems. The fibre optic drone will be effective until somebody produces a flying pair of scissors or something, which they will, and soon.

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Many people have written off the main battle tank because so many thousands have been destroyed by these cheap and ubiquitous drones. But these have mostly been aged ex-Soviet examples dating from decades ago. Even the Western tanks which have been taken out have not been the latest and best available. I will argue in my new book that a properly equipped modern tank, with its own jamming equipment and automated Active Defence Systems (ADS) which can knock down incoming missiles and even hypervelocity penetrators fired by enemy tanks – let alone slow-flying drones – will survive and win. A tank’s massive power pack can generate enough electrical power that next generation tank jamming systems will be impenetrable by most drones, and any which do get through will fall victim to its ADS before they can strike. These 60-ton, rumbling armoured monsters will still be kings of the battlefield: the Israelis, who made ADS a reality and who are masters of electronic warfare, have no trouble operating their modern Merkava tanks in the teeth of Hamas and Hezbollah drones.

The other old-fashioned battle magic which will let us operate in the new electronic desert is Mission Command. This is the concept in military leadership ... that emphasises empowering subordinates to make decisions and act independently to achieve the commander’s intent. It’s about trust, initiative, and speed of action. The temptation is to neglect it in an era when we are all so very tied to our mobile phones, but the Ukraine war is showing us that we do this at our peril. A surfeit of communication has messed up at least as many military operations as a lack of it, and a commander at any level who waits to hear back from his boss when an opportunity appears in front of him is not a real officer at all.

When technology is changing warfare at an exponential rate, it is almost impossible to develop military capability for next year, let alone the next decade ... It is essential that we have a flexible and agile force, and that we are not too seduced by some new technology today which will be redundant tomorrow. The principles of war have not changed and at its heart are the soldiers who close with and fight the enemy.


There's more at the link.

From the perspective of an old-school "grunt", I hope he's right.  The thought of being a piece of living meat on a battlefield filled with robots determined to turn me into dead meat is not a happy one!

However, I'm not sure he's right.  Think of it in economic terms.  To recruit, train and deploy a single soldier on a technologically advanced battlefield must run into several hundreds of thousands of dollars, even for plain-and-simple infantry troops.  A battlefield hunter-killer drone costs (according to news reports) only one or two thousand dollars.  A drone controller can send out hundreds of the things and guide them to their targets, making it a very economical way to wage war.  The drones may have to be a lot bigger and more sophisticated to take out a big, heavily armored target like a tank, but that will only increase their price to, say, five figures instead of four;  and a modern tank, with all its sophistication, costs well into seven figures (some are apparently approaching eight figures).  Therefore, the cost advantage is still overwhelmingly on the side of the drones.

Can a battle be fought entirely by drones?  Yes, I suppose it can, in the sense of destroying an opposing force.  However, what about occupying the land on which the battle was fought?  I'm not sure a drone force could be useful for that.  Sure, they can kill anything and anyone trying to live there (including civilians such as farmers, travelers, etc. - drones won't discriminate unless their operators are willing to do so), but that's not the same as occupying and claiming it as one's own territory, because if one tries to do that, the enemy will kill your forces just as surely as you'll kill theirs.  Sounds more like a technological stalemate to me, a war without end.

Killing enemy soldiers until there are no longer enough of them to fight on used to be the way to win a war.  Now, when drones can be replaced off-the-shelf for relatively low cost, can enough of them be killed to have the same impact?  If lives are cheap to generals, drones are even cheaper.  Where might this take us in combat?  I'm not sure I want to know . . . except that I don't want to be on or anywhere near that battlefield!



Peter


20 comments:

Dan said...

The next BIG thing in warfare will be when drones etc.become sentient, intelligent, truly autonomous. Then ALL bets are off.

RHT447 said...

Agreed. Even now, they have the capability of facial recognition at extreme range. Here's another article--

https://www.thetimes.com/article/5b50c3e3-c50a-4c4b-8dc2-014d7574896d

dearieme said...

"A scrimmage in a Border Station—
A canter down some dark defile—
Two thousand pounds of education
Drops to a ten-rupee jezail—
The Crammer's boast, the Squadron's pride,
Shot like a rabbit in a ride!

No proposition Euclid wrote
No formulae the text-books know,
Will turn the bullet from your coat,
Or ward the tulwar's downward blow.
Strike hard who cares—shoot straight who can—
The odds are on the cheaper man.

One sword-knot stolen from the camp
Will pay for all the school expenses
Of any Kurrum Valley scamp
Who knows no word of moods and tenses,
But, being blessed with perfect sight,
Picks off our messmates left and right.

With home-bred hordes the hillsides teem.
The troopships bring us one by one,
At vast expense of time and steam,
To slay Afridis where they run.
The "captives of our bow and spear"
Are cheap, alas! as we are dear.

(Kipling)

Anonymous said...

I can see antidrone systems ala David Drakes "Hammer's Slammers" series with anti air systems slaved to AI sweeping the sky of all non friendlies. In that science fiction series turret mounted secondary weapons kept anything in the air -to include artillery shells - at bay. Drake even envisioned anti air systems called "calliopes" creating bubbles of drone and artillery free space around maneuver units. Even low cost drones are expensive when defeated by lower cost bits of flying metal.
Bigtube6

Michael said...

Add in facial recognition then all sorts of political uses. Grunts don't need to be ID'ed aside as friend or foe.

Skynet is a real concern.

ruralcounsel said...

I suspect that what we now call the "battlefield" will not exist. Nobody will align troops against each other that way.
Everything will be more guerrilla-style, hit-and-run, IED's, ambush and disperse, and sabotage.

Sherm said...

I have a friend, now a retired Warrant Officer, who essentially wrote his own MOS in the USMC concerning spectrum security and mumble, mumble, mumble. It's been at least ten years so I suspect that he, in private industry, and those who came after him in the USMC have all kinds of tricks up their sleeves that we don't know about.

ERJ said...

I agree that being a grunt on a battlefield between peers will totally suck...but not for very long.

One topic that does not get talked about very often is GPS spoofing. If a drone is overflying enemy territory and sees targets, it kills them. How does it know it is over enemy territory? Primarily by GPS coordinates. Spoof the GPS and then Blue drones will be killing Blue soldiers, blowing up Blue supplies-in-transit.

Anonymous said...

If you've heard about it, it's obsolete

Robert said...

Autonomous drones can be equipped with inertial tracking systems that will keep them within approximate boundaries of their assigned kill zones. The tracking will drift over time, but the drones won't be operating long enough for that to matter. Drones could have multiple navigation systems and some kind of priority to resolve disagreements.

The delivery vehicles that bring the drones to their launch sites can have multiple orientation systems to accurately determine a starting location. The drones will launch with that correct starting location.

Attack drones are single-use items for area denial. You don't want them to return, as the landings and retrievals are dangerous. Best just to detonate them when they run out of fuel/battery power. They are expendable munitions, just like artillery shells or bullets.

Anonymous said...

I don't think I would trust this guy with my ass on the battlefield

Texas Dan said...

Still have to believe the Russian tactic of artillery in depth is a winning one and won't go anywhere anytime soon.

Anonymous said...

It takes boots on the ground to occupy territory but it takes air superiority to permit that. Drones are the new air superiority.

Don in Oregon

Old NFO said...

Nobody is actually doing full spectrum jamming (yet). That will change the whole perspective when it happens. Just sayin...

Aesop said...

"Think of it in economic terms. To recruit, train and deploy a single soldier on a technologically advanced battlefield must run into several hundreds of thousands of dollars, even for plain-and-simple infantry troops. A battlefield hunter-killer drone costs (according to news reports) only one or two thousand dollars. A drone controller can send out hundreds of the things and guide them to their targets, making it a very economical way to wage war."

Um, no, not so much.

It's just made drone operators the single points of failure, and simultaneously focused every asset towards killing them off.
Take out the drone operators, and you can walk all over the enemy fielding drones.
Ditto drone supply chains, from frontline, back to point of origin.
Then there are the inevitable drone-killing drones deployed or in the works, in 3, 2, ...

There's nothing new under the sun, from thrust vs. parry to sword vs. shield.

A guy running drones is going to be the 21st century equivalent of the guy in 'Nam walking around with the 20' radio aerial sticking out of his pack, or the machine gunner: mainly a juicy target.

Either side may gain a temporary advantage, but that supremacy is brief, from either weeks to mere minutes.

Terrorists hijacking airplanes in order to crash into buildings took everyone by surprise on 9/11.
That tactic was D.O.A. and countered by ordinary citizen passengers on Flight 93 in under 84 minutes.

That's the speed of obsolescence on the modern battlefield.

Anonymous said...

Hmm, the Russians are using drones with fiber optic lines for control so the success in jamming the signal is null.

Also here's a article discussing KIA numbers in Ukraine but a former CIA analyst.

https://sonar21.com/debunking-the-ukrainian-claim-about-russian-casualties/

HMS Defiant said...

the fun bits,
allied/nato command lives for huge c4i footprints that radiate like a star in the em spectrum. Anybody within a quarter mile is going to be dead at 0800 after they turn on the systems.
the failure of control will be demonstrated often in early days by the same damned fools who insist that it is just fine if they take their cell phones into battle because they don't know how targetable they are because the targeteers neglect to TELL ANYONE.
the green door is going to get rammed open by a bolo and deservedly so.

M said...

The anti-air systems in Hammer's Slammers depended on cheap rapid-firing energy weapons that shot line-of-sight and could easily defeat any armor an aircraft could mount, even with man-portable arms.
I don't think Drake thought it out thoroughly, since satellites could be shot with slightly more powerful systems - mostly what was needed was sufficiently accurate aiming. He had satellite monitoring systems for the unitary human governing body, which wouldn't work.

Other fiction I've read postulates that AI will not rapidly take over the higher level stuff (how do we win?), but will be capable of supplementing humans quite readily (take that hill).
In that case, you would end up with each human surrounded by a cloud of drone-type systems. Winning in this case means finding and killing the human controller, which would then decrease the effectiveness of the drones.

Putting humans on the battlefield without drone support would become rather like putting a human by himself in WW2 France and arming him only with a cutlass.

Likewise dealing with the drones after killing or capturing the human controller becomes like minefield aftermath clearance - tedious, but not nearly as deadly as clearance while under fire.

Anonymous said...

I think that will be the real power of the ORESHNIK missile system. It can stomp those command centers to dust in the opening phase, leaving NATO headless. Now, that might be a good thing long-term, but short term it'll be a major problem. Securing the airwaves by using tight-beam only (rather than radio-freq broadcast) or fiber-optics will be critical.

Aesop said...

Right.
You've sussed out that a fixed TOC is a target, but no one in NATO, with combined totals of military service numbering into hundreds of thousands of man-years, is aware of that vulnerability.

Russia has developed a missile? One that could hit a vital HQ site?

Ssshhhh, don't tell anyone at SAC NORAD about that.
We wouldn't want to ruin the surprise when they find that out.
/sarc