We've met Jared Dillian before in these pages. He's an investment adviser and analyst with a highly respected track record in the industry. He's not a happy man these days.
You should never let your emotions get in the way of investing, but I am starting to get angry at this bull market ... You want my thoughts—I will give you my thoughts. But the one data point that you should know is that the stock market is now the most overvalued in history, more so than 2000 or even 1929.
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My friend Helene Meisler tweeted recently that if you weren’t around for the dot-com bubble, now you know what it was like in the dot-com bubble. The difference being that so many more people own stocks this time around. It is estimated that 62% of Americans own stocks. If we have a 50% bear market, it’s going to be Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome. We are really going to be questioning the wisdom of plowing all our savings into the stock market via 401(k)s. Let’s hope that doesn’t come to pass because the consequences would be too terrible to contemplate, but knowing markets and karma, that is probably exactly what is going to happen.
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I mean, the consensus view is that all this [AI] capex is going to go to waste, so maybe the out-of-consensus view is that it is actually needed. This is one of these situations in which I am glad I am 52 years old. The internet was also the future of the human race, but capitalism being what it is, there was overinvestment and malinvestment, and eventually supply caught up with demand, and everything crashed.
It looks like a tiny blip on a log chart (which is one reason why I hate log charts), but trust me, the crash was no fun. I lived through it and barely held on to my job. This time is no different. This time is never different! Whether it’s railroads, industrials/utilities, the Nifty Fifty, Japan, or any other bubble. The difference is that this one is bigger than all of them, and it looks like it’s not stopping.
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Back when I was at Lehman in 2006, I’d drive out in the country and take pictures of all the housing developments under construction that were completely vacant and then send them out in my Bloomberg messages. Maybe I should take a road trip and take some pictures of all the data centers under construction that will be Spirit Halloween stores in a few years.
I ordinarily don’t like to write rants. I like to write reasoned, thoughtful pieces. But I’m currently on a plane to Minneapolis, and S&P futures, which opened lower (because oil was up), just ripped to new highs… again. It’s truly incredible that the market goes up every day. It will be equally incredible when it goes down every day because that is what it felt like in 2002. A bear market without end.
There's more at the link.
I'm afraid I agree with Mr. Dillian. Stock market prices have been soaring into the stratosphere year after year, without any sound economic underpinnings. It's all been a leap of faith. "The Fed will provide!" Well, what happens when the Fed can no longer provide? What happens when the economic consequences of the Iran war begin to bite? What happens when international market turmoil makes it clear that, despite all the positive punditry from paid opinion writers, the emperor has no clothes, and nothing is or can be guaranteed?
The very real dangers confronting any and all Western economies aren't limited to the Iran war. Ambrose Evans-Pritchard focuses on China, and points out:
Europe's leaders are waking up to the terrifying danger that China could obliterate much of their industrial base within less than a decade, shattering the old political order and the EU project itself.
The Rhodium Group says the Chinese Communist Party is digging in its heels, doubling down on a strategy of systemic over-investment and over-reliance on exports that cannot be absorbed by the rest of the world, and certainly not a Europe already in semi-slump.
The original "Made in China 2025" plan a decade ago targeted a clutch of specific technologies. Beijing is now expanding this into an "industrial policy of everything": cars, machinery, chemicals, pharma, software, AI, you name it.
China is pursuing this ruthlessly, aiming to capture a larger share of global value added with vertical control of the entire lifecycle.
It is moving towards autarky in its home market while undercutting the West in its own market and in third countries – everywhere and in every product. It devours foreign technology without releasing its own. The Rhodium Group said the foundations of G7 manufacturing are under comprehensive threat.
The "China Shock 2.0" is bigger and more sophisticated than the original China Shock in the 1990s and early 2000s, which flooded the world with cheap goods and wiped out swathes of blue-collar manufacturing in the West.
America bore the brunt of the first shock. The pauperisation of the Midwest Rust Belt set the stage for Donald Trump.
This time China cannot dump its excess capacity on the US market so easily because of trade barriers. The tsunami is instead being displaced into the softer target of Europe. It is hitting with even greater intensity. China's trade surplus hit a record 1pc of global GDP last year. No country has ever reached such an imbalanced position in modern economic history.
Again, more at the link.
My wife and I aren't rich. Right now, our savings - and some extra debt through a second mortgage - are funding medical care. Assuming all ends up that ends well, we'll have to rebuild our savings, but I tell you right now, with the stock market as it is, we won't be putting one red cent into it. I want a store of value that will retain its value in a stock market slump, and for me that means precious metals. Even before that, I want to make sure we have enough of the essentials to survive a severe, prolonged economic downturn. If you want a useful list that most of us can use, click over to Lawrence Person's Battleswarm Blog and see his helpful list from last November. It makes a good start to review our preparations.
Want to invest in something that is likely to offer a reasonable return on investment in the short to medium term? Look at domestic essentials that may be in short supply during a prolonged downturn, and lay in a supply of them as trading material. Baby diapers. Feminine hygiene essentials. Soap. Toothpaste. Basic, essential canned food. Flashlights and battery powered domestic and camping lanterns. Think of what your family can't live without, and you've got the start of a useful investment list, right there.
Am I a pessimist? I don't think so. I'd rather call myself a realist. Regular readers will know that I, and many others, have been uneasy about our economy for years, if not decades. The numbers have been getting worse all that time, and now they're getting worse a lot faster. Forewarned is forearmed.
I'll leave the last word to an astute observer. Click the image to be taken to the original post on X.com, and read the more than 600 replies (so far).
Word.
Peter

18 comments:
"Let that sink in. No more jet fuel for the United Kingdom." May 13th Post
Australia was supposed to be out of fuel but isn't. Airplanes are still flying in and out of the UK. Other fuel related problems were supposed to have occurred but haven't.
Is Iran's blackmail for moving oil out of the Gulf a problem. Yes. Are there work arounds that would limit or eliminate the Iranian grip on the Strait of Hormuz? Yes.
My point is that there is no doubt the world's financial system is in trouble. There is no doubt that there will be some long term disruptions not just in the states, but world wide. So, take precautions for what your family requires where you live. But don't get nervous or upset over things we have no control over.
The House voted to extend the Iranian terrorism by signaling a cut to the War Powers cash. There is no political will to stop terrorism.
The same is happening in California with obvious irregularities in the current voting.
Put your faith in God and watch the show.
Dave
An offshored just in time economy has way too many points of failure. As I was talking with my neighbors recently about Chevron, Toyota Dealerships and other sources showing that by the End of June RATIONING of synthetic oils will be in effect.
I suggested a jug of their synthetic oils and filers might be prudent.
Even IF the Trump-Bibi war stopped TODAY it's going to be almost a year before the shipping-repairs and refining of the returned oils and chemicals come back onto Walmart's shelves.
As all the modern Semi tractor trailer trucks require synthetics and most of my neighbors work vehicles ALSO require synthetics, what do you THINK is going to happen?
These vehicles are DESIGNED for synthetics; regular oil is not going to do well preventing damage to them.
The family auto can probably survive with minor damage and warranty questions for a year without oil changes. HIGH Milage WORK Trucks (Plumbers and Power Linemen for example) and Semi's CANNOT.
Peter, setting up a deep larder and reserves of soap, synthetic oils and such is prudent.
HOWEVER, Trade Items DEMANDS two things:
That they have something to TRADE for it
That they will not try to TAKE it from you as your now a rich TARGET in a less than lawful world.
In fact, History suggests that the Police and Local Governmental folks will likely grab any EXCESS supplies for "the community needs" (yeah RIGHT).
We are very likely heading into a Greater Depression as like the Great Depression this is going to be a worldwide experience. Russia, I expect will do fairly well as they are not like China a mass exporter economy because of our idiot sanctions forcing them to build their own required factories and mines.
Buy as much of a year's supply of what you need and KEEP your yapper shut.
Otherwise, folks will remember your chatter about this and...
Hm....I also heard all of this before the ______(insert your calamity here).
Always, always screeching and howling at the moon sort of stuff. And guess what; the world continued to turn, the sun rose in the east and time marched on.
And it seems to me that the elites always come out smelling like a rose.
There is a time for correction and people should look at history and realize that.
Stocking up on items for the purpose of using them for barter purposes when the economy crashes only works in a polite society. Unfortunately, we no longer live in a polite society today and it will only get worse when the economy crashes. I would only stock up on items that are personally needed and keep quiet about what you have.
Regarding the stock market, it's where the inflation is showing up. All that free cash has to be stored or invested somewhere.
There are lots of people with ten years worth of toilet paper in their garage from the Koof (Covid-19) days.
Goodness they stopped using toilet paper?
Unless it gets wet or rodent chewed toilet paper has no expiration date and so far since COVID the price continues to climb.
Me thinks the lady protests too much
Michael Green talks about the over 50% share of mutual funds that own the NASDAQ, S&P 500, and NYS. It may tip to 60% soon. No one knows what the results will be, but it's clear because of these money flows from IRAs, 401ks, and pensions funds that we may be poorer in reality because of the need to do something with all that money.
SNIP "Let that sink in. No more jet fuel for the United Kingdom." May 13th Post
Australia was supposed to be out of fuel but isn't. Airplanes are still flying in and out of the UK. Other fuel related problems were supposed to have occurred but haven't.
Maybe if you looked around, you'd realize that America is "loaning out" (like anyone actually repays) our Strategic oil reserves to the UK (and others) to "Stabilize" the oil market.
Just like the temporary gas prices dropping because the Gov.com has eliminated some of the taxes they put on each gallon.
Makes the Sheeple happier, feeds the America is fine propaganda BUT guess where the ROAD Repairs and Pay for DOT employees come from.
Ding, ding, ding Gasoline taxes.
So, we ROB America of its Strategic oil reserves AND NOW we have to pay more interest on the DEBT we'll need to repair our roads.
AWESOME Dude, like paying your overdue credit cards with another credit card....
Tick, tick, tick, Storage bottom of existing reserves coming soon.
Yes, I could post links if you want, or maybe you can use some Googlefu and find out yourself.
As for trade goods, I heard the story of a Good Baptist Woman who had two case of mid level whiskey in her basement. Because she knew that there might come a time again when cash is short, but the plumber might take a bottle for repairs.
Just because you don't indulge, others might.
I think the stock market will continue to go up (nominally) as long as government issues new debt - all those dollars need to be parked somewhere and people have been conditioned to think stock market to be the place (BTW, most of the retail investors will be fleeced.) The most important question here is: do your stocks go up the same rate or faster than the inflation? If not, you are holding the rapidly emptying bag. I treat here the inflation as the base rate, not only because for the practical value of the investment, but also as the base driver of the stock market valuations. Rising tide and all boats, right?
Not to be grumpy friends BUT stock market "wealth" isn't but a hopeful promise UNTIL you actually sell and pocket the "profits".
Then Mr. Tax man grabs his part.
Also, if a Fiat Money "Crisis" occurs all fiat in banking, credit lines (aka credit cards etc.) and YOUR Money in the Market and Banks becomes up for grabs.
Banking holidays have happened in recent history when the Gov.com REALLY NEEDED MONEY.
When a major depression rolls in as it always does per history the FIRST Commandment of a Gov.com is:
Retain POWER
Second is
Grab the valuables to keep power.
AKA Rooseveldts grabbing Gold at some 20 dollars an ounce for Fiat greenbacks THEN "Reevaluating Gold" at 35 dollars an ounce = about a 40% Haircut in your REAL Purchasing power.
Real skills and trusted friends are the best investments when a greater depression rolls in.
There is a lot of doom and gloom on BRM lately and I don't see it. I understand that there is dissatisfaction with fuel and food prices at home but I think that the USA is the best bet on the planet. Who else do you go with? China - dying; Russia - dying; Old Europe - dying; UK - past the tipping point. The Middle East? Africa? Brazil? The reserve currency status is sound. Manufacturing is coming back. USA is a good bet.
The Stock Market has little to no connection to the real world, the actual economy and the day to day life of most Americans. And it has been disconnected from reality for a long time.
The only problem with China is their upcoming civil conflict after other countries do what the U.S. is doing to balance trade. The recent business deals and student exchanges are an attempted safety valve. I don't see any major problems for us, if they put off their collapse for a few years.
At this point, there is no stopping human expansion into space. The tech is here. So is industrial robot tech. We're heading into a real Golden Age. I'm a prepper for natural disasters, that's just common sense. But I won't buy gold again. It'll be down to it's industrial commodity price within 10 years.
When the purchasing power of a $ is half what it used to be an increased stock price is no surprise. Capital flight out of Europe also plays it's role. See Martin Armstrong for the details
" I want a store of value that will retain its value in a stock market slump, and for me that means precious metals."
Um, precious metals are only "precious" because people think they're valuable -- much like stocks and bonds. Fact is, in a depression like y'all are talking about, nothing will hold its value -- not stocks, not bonds, not gold and silver, nothing. Because all those things are just money, and money is only worth what people are willing to trade for it.
Oh, and if what I've read is any indication, half the time, the "gold and silver" you're buying is not actual put-your-hands-on-it metal. It's promises that if in the future you want to get your hands on it, you'll be able to. But if everybody tries to turn their promises into actual metal at the same time, guess what?
You would think here in America that we are accustomed to dealing with a society stuffed with bad men well aware of the fact that they have nothing left to lose and therefore can attack the world with a free conscience and a machete.
It will be far more interesting to see it happen when the middle class decide that they have nothing left to lose and attack it with rifles.
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