Karl Denninger points out that President Trump has to deal with US government overexpenditure right now, or risk bankrupting the nation. Medicare/Medicaid is undoubtedly the principal culprit. Emphasis in original.
$296 billion in all revenues and $603 billion spent last month; all of which was with President Trump in office.
This, while Speaker Johnson (and Trump) both want to continue this insane level of spending beyond revenues -- more than a 50% deficit last month -- until the end of September.
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Note that Social Security, which people will try to lump in, is not the problem. It takes in a huge amount of tax (and pays out a huge amount); in contrast Health and Human Services spent $145 billion last month which is more than all income tax receipts deposited from individuals and more than 14 TIMES that deposited from corporations and yet the total deposited from Medicare tax was $28 billion -- or just nineteen percent of what was spent.
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In total CMS has spent $1,030 billion thus far this year or one third of the total $3,039 billion spent by the Federal Government and yet it has received only $164 billion in taxes against that, or sixteen percent of what it has spent.
In addition prescription drug spend in Medicare has risen a stunning 80% over last year's run rate -- that currently stands at $74 billion against $41 billion this time last year while the entire last year spend was just over $100 billion.
Hospital payments are up 20% over last year and physicians payments are up 31%.
There's more at the link.
Mr. Denninger's solution is to enforce existing laws, which have not been applied to medical costs and entities despite having been on the books for years, even decades. He makes a strong case for his position, and I can't disagree with it in theory - except for the practical consideration that if we did so tomorrow, the medical infrastructure of the entire country would grind to a halt, because no organizations such as hospitals, medical insurers, etc. would be able to take the hit in the short term.
That said, I don't see any other way to avoid it either. If anyone is dependent upon Medicare or Medicaid for one's health care, they face a very uncertain future, because the money simply isn't there to sustain the current level of care and/or pay for future increases in cost. It's a nightmare scenario for many of us, yet as the figures show, it's just landed right on our front lawns. It might be punted a short way down the road by printing more money and spending against borrowings, but that's just reached a point where it's no longer sustainable. The efforts of D.O.G.E. to cut government spending are laudable, but even they can't touch this sort of deficit between income and expenditure. An axe has to be taken to the root of the problem - but all of our politicians are terrified to do so, because they know the backlash from voters will be savage and extreme. They simply dare not do what has to be done, because if they do, they'll be voted out of office at the next available opportunity.
It's as simple - and as complex - as that. We've reached a point of no return. A solution has to be found, and one is available: but to implement it, our politicians have to be willing to "fall on their swords" in electoral terms, and few of them are willing to do that - so they'll do nothing, by default, and pretend that it's beyond their control. It's not, of course, but they will pretend otherwise.
Folks, good luck with this one. We're all going to be facing it, and it's going to cost most of us a great deal of money over the years unless something drastic happens. We should already be making plans to prepare for that, as far as it's possible to do so.
Peter
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Medicaid and Medicare should be 85% of the price paid by the lowest private insurance company's payment for any drug or service.
Don't ya just hate it when an acronym of which you are unfamiliar appears but without definition or explanation?
If you're going to edit, be sure not to edit away definitions.
A good article is one where you don't need to go elsewhere to find what is missing.
All I see in this article is; "Tweet, Tweet, Danger Will Robinson, The sky is falling...." Yeah, yeah, the spending of money is terrible. Or should I say the wasteful spending of money is terrible. If you want to help get the budget under control you have to pinpoint the obvious "holes in the bucket" and plug them first.
Thats what DOGE is doing with the "grants". Now they need to identify the 150 year old MEDICAID recipients. And I betchya there are a few of 'em. Ending that outflow is a start. Secondly you need to identify the illegals that are getting Medicaid. And there are a slew of them also. Thirdly, you need to identify the citizens that are getting Medicaid for "ailments" that are suspicious; like migraines and back pain.
Once those areas are identified and the outflow stopped; I bet you will have enough left over that Medicaid won't go insolvent for quite a few years.
I presume you're referring to "CMS". That wasn't defined by Mr. Denninger either. I've updated the article to link to its definition in Wikipedia.
Denninger and I would both love to see MANDATED PRICE TRANSPARENCY. Meaning that all healthcare providers must post online their cash-up-front, paid-in-full prices for every item or service they provide.
For instance, you were out hiking, stumbled on a boulder, and injured your ankle. Now you're limping, you think it may just be a bad sprain, but the degree of pain and swelling has you concerned about a broken bone. You know you're likely to need an x-ray to rule out a fracture. So you go online and find the price of an ankle x-ray at your nearby urgent care center. There, you see options for 1-, 2-, or 3-views of the ankles. You don't know how many views you need, so just pick 2-views (2 x-rays, one from the side and one from the front). Boom, there's the price: $200. Then you could shop around at other urgent care centers, clinics, and emergency rooms. You will easily find the price of those x-rays ranging from $100 to $1500 depending on the facility.
Many folks have yearly high-deductible health insurance, meaning they have to pay $1000 to $3000 out of pocket before insurance starts paying anything. Mandated price transparency would created millions of price-conscious healthcare shoppers, which would pressure the outlying providers to lower their prices. As with most everything else we buy.
Medicare is SSN coverage (Pensioners). Medicaid is the government aiding people who cant afford insurance (Poor people and illegals). I would like to see a break down between the two programs and see where the money goes. CMS is the clearing house between the two programs and the people covered.
back in the 1990's I was doing out patient MRI.
across the hall was a "ortho" shop. he was always busy too. but a few months later he was hit by the LAW for medicare fraud, like to the sum of a few million bucks. ANYWAY.
he wiggled his way out of it with a small fine and some "good works" or some other bullshit.
I worked in healthcare long enough to seen and KNOW that there is massive amounts of fraud done in medical billing.
BTW. medical billers, if any good. make a damn good living. until they start enforcing the law and punish the bad guys. not much is going to change. 8 out 10 times, the "judge" will go easy on them (?) but really, they are stealing from all of us.
...And anyone who thinks that illegal aliens aren't getting Medicaid, they need look no further than the once-great state of California, where Newsom gave illegal aliens access to MediCal, California's rendition of Medicaid. "OH, but that's CALIFORNIA," you say. Yes, it is, but Medical IS Medicaid, and is BACKFILLED by FEDERAL FUNDS. That's right, Mr. and Mrs. Mainstreet. You're paying for ILLEGAL ALIEN HEALTHCARE!
Be a pain in the ass. CALL your "representatives" and let them know how you feel about this!!!!
Much of the money that could have/should have gone to Medicare was diverted to aid, abet and fund the invasion of illegals that the US has had to suffer from for a LONG time. There are no easy answers. Part of the problem is modern medicine has gotten very good at keeping people from dying, but not keeping them healthy. A lot of people live a LONG time but do so at great expense medically. And there are no easy pleasant answers to this reality.
Been an imaging specialist since Ford was POTUS. Fraud in some form has always been an issue in healthcare. Part of it is the need to practice "defensive" medicine, part is simple greed. But I'd guess 40-50% of the exams I have done in my career were at best of questionable medical necessity.
Deagel's forecasts are starting to make more sense now...
Yup. A financial apocalypse of the USA is nigh.
Tough, very tough, decisions have to be made. And the populace is a mix of does not have a clue, or does not care, or burn it all down.
I don't want to sign up for social security because I do not want medicare. I detest that the two are tied together. And there is no 'right' to healthcare. People have had to pay for nostrums and surgeons throughout history. I don't want to 'share the burden' of healthcare costs with people who've smoked for 40 years - and others shouldn't have to pay extra because I'm overweight. You are responsible for your own choices. Sometimes it sucks, but that's life. Deal with it people.
@Paul
In 2022, total U.S. healthcare spending was $4.5 trillion.
Of that, 18% went to Medicaid, 21% to Medicare.
Of total spending, 29% was by the federal government. Note that Medicaid is partially funded by the States.
@Dan said...
If I ever write another book, it's going to be "Don't Get Sick!", about how to stay out of the clutches of the medical-industrial complex via diet, exercise, reasonable screening measures, etc.
If you're getting Social Security, you HAVE to pay into medicaid... NO choice. And yes, the billing is @#$#% ridiculous! $24 for an ASPIRIN???
Sure, if 50% of the US population is dead one year from now.
My wife and I are both on Medicare and our only income is Social Security. We pay almost six hundred dollars between us each month for secondary insurance, we each have $185 deducted from each of our checks for part B and about $200 between us for prescription coverage so it isn’t such a free ride! Also we had pay roll deductions pretty much since Medicare started. I think that was to go into a trust fund. Part of the problem is that the medical community embraces new meds that may have more side effects and may not be any more effective but cost a small fortune probably with kick backs to the Dr. Last spring when I was in hospital for a stroke they wanted to put me on the newest blood thinner and even with my prescription insurance there would have been a $300 copay which I couldn’t afford. I ended up back on rat poison (Coumadin) which does require a monthly test but as the nurse who does the test said “at least it can be reversed with vitamin k if you need emergency surgery or something”. I think CDC protocols may run up bills by requiring more complicated testing than actually needed. Also how much burden was put on any of the various insurances treating the side effects of the Covid vaccine?
People would be shocked how quickly Medicare and Medicaid would become solvent if we just deported 40M illegal aliens, starting tomorrow.
You're hilarious!!!!!!
Medicare currently pays less than 2% of the billed price for any service.
If they jumped it to 85%, the cost per year would be more than the service on the national debt, and we'd have to shut down and lay off the entire Department Of Defense.
Now go ask ten doctors why they aren't accepting any new Medicare patients, and ask why your health insurance skyrockets year after year, and let us know when the penny drops for you.
Modern medicine is not concerned with keeping people healthy or metabolic health. It has become normal to experience diabetes and high blood pressure as you age. Yet 7 percent of the population do not experience this. That 7% avoid processed food like the plague. Omega 6 (not 3, 3 is good) and anything not food (BHA, natural flavors which aren't, etc.)
This works, I have been doing this for 2 months (I'm 62). My joint pain is down, my mobility is up, my allergies bother me less. I have lost 15 lbs. I work physically all day so it is very easy for me to notice the difference. Amazingly, much of this has been know due to studies by such entities as the NIH, for years. In some cases decades. The more I research, the angrier I get. Easy answer, cook at home from scratch without seed oils. Exercise throughout the day, not 30 minutes only at the gym, and get at least 7 hours of sleep. If you think you can't manage this, when you do it you will have more energy so you can manage it. (See "Good Energy" by Casey Means to start, Dr. Eric Westman on YouTube)
Family member, now retired FBI, worked medicare fraud, all day every day. Catch someone, get them fined, didn't change their behavior. Fines and consequences to small.
You want to cut cost? Transparent medical cost. Quit treating illegals. Hammer fraudsters, hard. Put an end to it. And properly educate people on metabolic health! Our food system is not set up to support healthy eating, nor is our farming industry. But we have to start! 20% of GDP is spent on healthcare for a very unhealthy nation.
I’m 76. Its likely that more $ has been spent on my medical care in the last 10 years than my first 66 and I stopped being productive 12 years ago. It doesnt take a genius to realize that taking my cohort out to an ice floe would save lots of money.
If/when our financial collapse does happen, you can bet real gold that a vast number of elected officials in Washington and various State Houses will quickly head for a plane/ship to far off places. I'll bet you that they already have a fine home, property and bank account set up to escape to, smiling and laughing as they go. Perhaps our citizens should take steps to insure that doesn't happen. Want a list of potential runners? Just check to see who the ones are that have become multi-millionaires on their government salary.
"...pretend that it's beyond their control. It's not, of course, but they will pretend otherwise."
It was humans that designed our SS/Medicare/Medicaid systems and Federal budgets. Of course there can be a human-designed answer to this 'problem'. We voters are the stupid ones who are afraid of electing someone who wants to solve this problem, because there are 535 in the committee deciding on a solution.
What would happen to your family's spending plan when you have even 5 folks deciding what you should spend next year, next decade?
The Deagel Report was not a prediction or a forecast. It was a project plan.
Like most projects, it is running late and needs additional funding.
You presumed correctly. I was venting my frustration over the growing problem of garbage editing nigh everywhere I read.
Thank you for your attention.
(Some sources are so reliably bad that I no longer read them. That is perhaps the worst indictment of any means of communications.)
I'm not hopeful, but just because they continued spending doesn't mean they can't make cuts. The CR is to keep spending at current levels which actually means reducing due to inflation. Now if they can only start cutting some of the programs that DOGE has identified, and reforming others that DOGE hasn't gotten to yet... I'm not holding my breath but it's what I'd like to see happen.
So just to be a bit contrarian here. in the first few comments someone seemed to be a bit negative about CMS... I had never heard of it until this year. It seems to be a bit of a catch all that means your having some sort of issue that causes you pain that we can't quite identify. So on the face of it maybe it is a bit easy to abuse. However.. my 10 year old that had a couple very nasty infections with strep and then a flu like virus that didn't test positive for any known virus last the past fall, started having intense pain in her skin about 6 weeks later. after a lot of test and rigamarole it got labeled CMS. Doctor was very upfront saying that they couldn't identify what was causing directly but that it seems to be a nervous system inflammation that some people get after having a virus or a physical body trauma. Don't look down on someone that has been diagnosed with this till you've held your 10 year old in your arms as she cry's through the night in your arms because her skin hurts to the touch, a very light brush, the freaking sheet touching her. When it wasn't that bad, accidentally hugging her like normal would cause her to cry in pain. A lot of days the school asked me to come get her because she is crying in pain. It seems to come and go and feels as if she is over time getting better and better thank god. However from what the doctor said it can come and go fairly rapidly or stay forever and they don't know why. Or maybe will go away and come back the next time she gets sick for a while. We have talked about chronic pain on some of the posts in this forum.... well this is one of them. If you haven't experienced it then maybe you shouldn't talk about those that are dealing with it in a negative way. I admit it offended me a bit.
Sigh.. sorry.. went back to read CMS comment and it wasn't prejudicial just about definitions. I shouldn't read and post when as tired as I am right now.
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