I'm disgusted and angry by complaints that the cancellation of a camp for "minor-attracted persons" (in other words, those of pedophile inclination) is somehow "oppression" or "discrimination". On the contrary - I'm sure almost all parents reading this (and many others too) will regard it as sound common sense. Why put our kids in proximity to a real and present danger to their well-being?
After local outcry canceled a camp for “minor-attracted persons” set for last weekend in Vermont, several organizations are publicly defending those who declare a sexual attraction to children.
MAP Union, or MU, which represents itself as “an international organization representing the interests of minor-attracted people and their allies,” sent a statement to local reporter Guy Page protesting the camp cancelation as “bullying” and violence against “society’s most oppressed minority group.”
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The person calling himself “Percy” also told Bean, “We hope to provide a more balanced approach to MAP advocacy than groups like NAMBLA have been able to in the past.” NAMBLA is the North American Man-Boy Love Association, which effectively disintegrated after a series of FBI stings jailed members for abusing children and trafficking in illegal abuse images.
People sexually attracted to children are typically pornography addicts who often get sent to jail for trafficking in illegal abuse images. Porn businesses are complicit ... as they “deliberately insert transgender partners, children, and opposite-sex partners into pornography aimed at children and heterosexuals, in order to ‘see if you can convert somebody, right?'” a senior script writer for a Pornhub company disclosed in 2023.
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“We do understand the alarm among local parents, but we are extremely unhappy about non-violent MAP community members being labeled as dangerous to children,” Brian Ribbon, a cofounder of MAP Union, said in a statement to The National Desk. “The idea that these people would for some reason try to attack children at the local school is outrageous and deeply offensive.”
There's more at the link, including some very unsavory ideals indeed (vulva-shaped chocolates? Really?).
Here's a rule of thumb. Any person or organization seeking to defend pedophiles - whether active, or only with that orientation - is defined by that action as being an immediate, clear and present danger to the safety of our children and the health of our communities. That's the bottom line. There is absolutely no excuse for such orientation. Forget the complaint that "we were born that way - it's not our fault!" What they're saying is that their tendency to exploit, manipulate, entice and coerce children into relationships they can't understand and to which they're not old enough to give consent, is "not their fault", but somehow OK.
I also flatly don't believe those who claim that their sexual orientation towards "minors" is an attitude only, and not one that leads to actual physical relationships with them. Are you trying to tell me that such persons never look at a kid walking down the sidewalk and fantasize about doing sexual things with/to them? Is that OK with you? If it is, I suggest you have a problem almost as large as the "minor-attracted person" themselves - particularly if you have kids of your own, and want to protect them from as they grow up.
Just "No!" There is no place for pedophiles or "minor-attracted persons" in any normal, healthy society. End of discussion. (And well done to the people who canceled that camp!)
Peter
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The deepest darkest depth of Hell for all these people. My brother in law was a scum bag and someone I had to tolerate. Turns out he was molesting everyone's children. So we have 5 adults with lifelong trauma in raving stages. His stepdaughters turned him in once they had children and he started going after them. Was a deacon at his church which promptly kicked him out. Judge gave him probation because he was an older man. That old man standing was just a year before trying to molest his granddaughters. Stupid Judge!!!
Well, he died and nobody showed at the funereal home or burial. Good Riddance. And yes, one of my children was among the five.
Leave the children alone !!!
Better check that Judge out.... ne just might be a closet pedophile!
Let them congregate and then send in the fire teams.
There's a support group for people like this; the perverts themselves and the perverts who defend or support them. I hear it's run by a guy named Lucifer...
I could support an airstrike for this.
Lucifer/Enki, Satan/Marduk/Baal-Zebub/Devil (D evil). Too many titles and names to list. He is, after all, The Great Deceiver.
I'm sure he'd be interesting to have a beer with, in public. I hear he can be very polite. Not likely to show up in person though, security issues, He's susceptible to 9 mm, 7.62x39-51, etc. when interfacing in this dimension.
So, I think we can all agree here that people who have sex with children or consume child porn need bullets to the brainpans.
Okay. So. What do we with people who are sexually attracted to children but don't want to act on said desire?
We keep them away from children as a basic, non-negotiable precaution. That may be difficult in practice, but it has to be done. That probably includes not allowing them to have children of their own, and it should probably include notifying potential marriage partners of their problem. Ruthless? Yes - but what other way is there?
I agree with Peter. People that "Don't want to act" on said desire should self-segregate and not put themselves in that position. Just like you don't encourage the alcoholic to have a bottle of booze to tempt themselves against.
I am a supplier of electronics. I would love to have the mailing addresses of all MAP Union members so I may send them complimentary tablets from my supplier in Israel.
I say let them have their camp, way out in the woods.
Then send in the hunters.
And therein lies the second problem, who on earth would be dumb enough to admit such attractions knowing they would be punished, even if they have not acted on them?
5000 acres and a backhoe...
Two concerns come to mind on this subject. I'll make each one a separate comment for clarity.
First, is this really a problem, especially more than in decades past? Some years ago, I was an unpaid amateur analyst for a Beltway think tank run by a college friend of mine. While most of the work performed related to one branch of the US military, they did some other work, and a study was done on this subject.
The authors concluded that the fears were greatly exaggerated, and that no additional resources were needed/desirable. This was at the tail end of the 1990s period of child abuse scandals, such as the McMartin Pre-school incidents(1980s).
Those of us who reviewed the report before publication concurred with the conclusions, with a few exceptions. I don't know who commissioned the study. That was over 20 years ago; are things really that much worse?
The second issue is that in the past, age of consent was at a much earlier age; Delaware had it at 7 years old, and the Quran allows Muslims to take brides at 9 years old. What about those people?
I'll add that I don't approve of child molesting or abuse, but I do wonder if the issue is meant to be another distraction from the other problems in American society?
I don't know if its more prevalent now but its still a serious problem. If you haven't been perpetrated on , or know someone well who has been a victim, you cant fully appreciate how it can have lifelong effects on someone. We dont need groups trying to validate the desires of pedofiles. At least for now its considered a perversion and psychiatric disorder. As far as I know its still not curable and the perpetrator will reoffend if given the chance.
The second issue is that in the past, age of consent was at a much earlier age; Delaware had it at 7 years old, and the Quran allows Muslims to take brides at 9 years old. What about those people? I think in both examples you give, girls are considered as property. With all the faults our society has, we do know now that children should be treated differently than that. As far as honoring the practices of Islam, NO. We have developed a society that tries to make sure people are nurtured and developed and should reject any behavior that harms people, no matter who's holy book says its OK.
but I do wonder if the issue is meant to be another distraction from the other problems in American society? Wouldnt be surprised, we do get easily distracted by nonsense.
Seems like a missed opportunity? Let them all gather then call in the air strike.
We should advertise for and hold such "camps". Then the when the pedophiles sign up and show up we "cure" them of their pedophilia. Of course the ONLY cure for pedophilia is the application of 90-200 grains of lead at 900+ FPS to the back of the skull. A society that refuses to protect it's children from such predators doesn't deserve to survive.
Some people just need shooting.
Rounding them all up into a camp seems like a great idea. Especially if it's their idea, and they pay for it. We just have to go by and lock the gates afterwards.
Prevalence may not be the issue. Public acceptance certainly is. Like other groups, they are pushing hard for legal protections and preferences so they can come out of the weeds and gain access to our children. And they are being given support and encouragement by some powerful allies.
I would be interested in knowing if the study people who didn't think it a problem had children or not at the time. I can tell you that if you don't want to incite extreme violence, you'd best leave peoples' children alone.
Napalm. Less cleanup.
I don’t know numbers-wise if it’s significantly different than what it was in the 90’s, but the problem is that the MAP people are trying to normalize it in society. They’re trying to jump on the same bandwagon as the LGBTQ groups and normalize it the same way they’ve normalized gay marriage, transgenderism, etc. Just look at how they’re trying to change the language we use. It’s not pedofile, it’s “MAP.” And once you start normalizing something, you’re going to see changes to the law. THATS why we need to stand firm in condemning these kinds of groups. Give an inch and they’ll take a mile. And that mile will traumatize our kids.
It was wrong then and it’s wrong now. Maybe it made more sense then due to infant mortality issues or maybe society at large was just more depraved then, regardless the age of consent has been 16+ in many states for well over 100 years. As for the age of marriage in the Quran, it’s immaterial. We’re in the United States. If people would like to practice Quranic marriage customs, they should go to a Muslim country.
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