Wednesday, June 28, 2023

"Why Exactly Are We At War With Russia?"


Tucker Carlson asks that question in his latest video podcast.  You can watch it here on Twitter, or read the transcript below (courtesy of Zero Hedge, to whom my grateful thanks for making it available).  The transcript doesn't read smoothly - I suspect it's a computer-generated voice-to-text product that needs an editor's review - but it'll do to get the gist of what Mr. Carlson is saying.

Hey it's Tucker Carlson, you may have found yourself wondering recently as the world slides closer to nuclear Annihilation than any time in human history why exactly are we at war with Russia.

It seems like there's a pretty significant downside to this particular foreign policy decision, starting with economic collapse and ending potentially with Extinction so is there a good reason we're doing it so many innocent young people have been killed so many hundreds of billions of dollars have been wasted some of them from the U.S treasury so what's the point are we really doing this so the Biden family can repay its debts to the oligarchs who finance their beach house in Rehoboth.

We're doing it so our government can continue to lie about its illicit bio labs in Eastern Europe so that flabby losers like Toria Newland and Tony Blinken can feel like they're doing something important with their sad empty lives.

Really honestly there's got to be a better reason for waging this the most pointless war of all.

What is it.

Well thankfully we have an answer: the war against Russia ladies and gentlemen the war against Putin and for Ukraine is in fact a war for democracy.

Watch and recall the motive the president has said many times "we're focused on what we can do to support Ukraine's effort to fight for their democracy".

"Democracy must prevail. The Ukrainian people are fighting the fight for their democracy and in doing so for ours as well."

"Assisting and helping Ukraine win this fight for democracy and freedom and of course Ukrainian president zielinski understand that what's at stake in Ukraine is bigger than just his Nation it is literally a battle for freedom and democracy themselves."

"They are showing the world what an existential fight for democracy looks like."

"President Zelenky and the Ukrainians have changed the course of history for the better and we unequivocally are with the Ukrainian people in their fight to remain a sovereign democracy."

Unequivocally with the Ukrainian people to remain in democracy it's a bipartisan view democracy must Prevail.

You just heard noted democracy expert Nancy Pelosi say the daughter of the mobbed up mayor of Baltimore as Pelosi puts it the Ukrainian people are fighting the fight for their democracy and for ours as well that's right for ours as well without Ukrainian democracy in other words we can have no democracy here if the ukrainians aren't free.

Neither are we we must make sure they can vote in Kiev so we can continue to vote in Kansas City.

It's really that simple and yet tonight we regret to tell you that we have a problem it looks like they're not going to be able to vote in Kiev anymore and no for once it's not Putin's fault.

Democracy in Ukraine seems to be suspended by the world's foremost democracy Advocate himself Field Marshal zielinski.


"If we win" he says "we'll let people vote otherwise no you vote" and we feel like it because ultimately we're completely in charge and make all the rules.

Your job is to obey or be punished.

That's our version of self-government.

Self means me - I'm the government now.

That's not just any autocrat that's our chief Ally in the war for democracy.

This is the guy who just announced he's like did you cancel next year's elections.

So you've got to wonder what the Biden Administration thinks of this - we can't possibly continue to support zielinski, that guy, after he said that can we because in a clip less than 30 seconds long he just blew up our entire rationale for supporting his side in the war.

So we can't support him.

Oh of course we can and we will.

Here's Joe Biden from yesterday reaffirming America's unequivocal support for Ukraine no matter what happened in Russia "we the United States should continue to support Ukraine's defense and its sovereignty and its territorial integrity".

So to recap we are currently fighting a war for democracy on behalf of a leader who just casually announced he's happy to end democracy and our democracy and supporting leaders have no problem with that in fact they're strongly for it.


You shouldn't be.

Of course they're for it. You should have seen this coming.

Wars for democracy always cancel democracy in the process - that's why our leaders love them and they all do it - even The Virtuous leaders Abraham Lincoln suspended habeas corpus, the British government under Winston Churchill through an entire opposition party into prison and let them rot for the duration - in some cases with their families.

So in a war for democracy you can do anything.

Imagine what a man might do who has fewer principles.

If that man say ran Ukraine he might seize churches arrest priests ban all criticism of himself disappear his political opponents and that's happening.

Just last month zelinski threw a man called Gonzalo Lira into prison indefinitely for the crime of daring to write about the Ukrainian government in unflattering ways.

Now what's interesting what separates this from other such cases is that lira is an American citizen, so Joe Biden who was quite a bit of SWAT as they say in Ukraine could have freed Gonzalo Lira within hours, but he didn't. He didn't want to - he didn't say a word about it - he remains in prison tonight.

So that makes you wonder what's the real motive here when normal people see War they see death and destruction, sadness and suffering; but that's not what demagogues see - they understand it differently they know that War means power mostly for them.

During wartime everything they do can be justified - war is the gravest of all emergencies - imagine the coveted lockdowns times a thousand plus drones.

Once War breaks out politicians become Gods with the power of life and death. So in a peaceful democracy you have to debate your political opponents in public and that's tiresome but in a war for democracy you can just throw them in jail or have them executed. You can see that many in Washington are looking forward to that moment and that may be why they so fervently support Joe Biden - even many Republicans - against a potential opponent - the only opponent who opposes the war in Ukraine.

If you were to end the war their power would evaporate.

Last week a whistleblower produced WhatsApp messages from Hunter Biden proving that at the very least his father knew about his influence peddling businesses abroad and probably participated in them "I'm sitting here with my father" Hunter Biden wrote to his Chinese Partners demanding money as much as anything reported about the bidens over the last several years this was The Smoking Gun.

There it is right there in the message that would have been enough to a normal president it would have been more than enough to keep a normal president from running for office again but had virtually no effect on Joe Biden.

Most media Outlets ignored it completely or tried to spin Biden's relationship with his son as some kind of moral Victory "the real meaning of the hunter Biden Saga as I see it" wrote Nick Kristoff of the New York Times "isn't about presidential corruption but is about how widespread addiction is and about how a determined parent with unconditional love can sometimes reel a child back."

He actually wrote that and if you doubt it you should know that view was common.Here's the take from ABC "the hunter Biden story, the Scandal, the this, that, it's also the story of a Father's Love and Joe Biden has never and will never give up on his son Hunter and will never treat him lesser than and so he is a father first take it or leave it."

So whistleblower produces a text message showing that Joe Biden was in the room with his son when his son was selling influence to an enemy power the Chinese government and ABC's take on it Joe Biden is a father first take it or leave it.

What accounts for a response like that?

Well that's the way you talk when you've got nothing to fear from an upcoming presidential election - you don't even bother to think of an excuse for your candidate because you don't need to. Your country has electronic voting machines - Joe Biden got 81 million votes in 2020 and you're pretty sure he can do it again.

In fact you know he can you're not worried but actually they should be a little worried

The people who control Joe Biden - Susan Rice and the rest - know they can continue to run our government, writing the press releases, formulating the policies, and they can do it effectively forever, as long as Joe Biden gets dressed in the morning, and of course that's their strong preference.

These are fervent opponents of change but the one thing these people cannot control is aging.

Joe Biden is old he's 80 now he will be 85 at the end of the next term.

People imagine that old age is a long predictable progression from Acuity to permanent unconsciousness but often that's not at all how it actually works.

When old people start to slide they tend to Slide fast.

Joe Biden has begun that descent.

Here he was yesterday and here's what she wrote to me and I quote you can imagine my joy she called them right away and the next day they sent someone out to survey her yard as Beth wrote this is the best thing that's happened in Rural America since the rural electrification act for electricity to farms in the 30s and 40s end of quote."

End of quote you weren't supposed to hear that - Joe Biden read the stage directions out loud -  that's like eating the garnish that comes with your entree you're supposed to know not to do that.

Joe Biden no longer does in a year or two he will be gone completely and there will be no hiding it at that point the Democratic party will face a secession problem.

If Joe Biden is re-elected next year and then forced to leave office during his term due to disability or death that means Kamala Harris will become president of the United States and nobody wants that not even her husband.

In real life nobody likes Kamala Harris.

That's not an attack on her in fact it's possible to feel pity for someone who's so universally reviled. It is instead an observation of unchanging physical reality like gravity or photosynthesis nobody wants Kamala Harris to be president no one will benefit if she becomes president so logic suggests there's going to be a change.

It's going to have to be somebody else and whoever that person is is going to have to enter the race soon before the election after Biden drops out.

Who could that person be? We don't know obviously this is all just guessing but we do know whoever that is we'll have to have two essential criteria he'll have to be as shallow ruthless and transactional as Joe Biden is and he'll need to have flattery skills that are so polished and advanced they'd be considered Superior even in the Saudi Royal Court and there's only one man in modern America who fits that description Gavin Newsom the governor of California and perhaps not coincidentally Joe Biden's new closest friend.

"I am here Mr President" Newsom told Biden at an event that they did together last week. "I am here as a proud American as a proud Californian mesmerized by not just your faith and your Devotion to this country and the world we're trying to build but by your results by your action by your passion by Your Capacity to deliver."

I get mesmerized by you Joe Biden - imagine saying that as a compliment you couldn't do it.

Few human beings could do it but Gavin Newsom had no problem at all those words rolled right off his Fork tongue. He never stopped smiling so if you're looking for the leader of the coup there he is right there she's in Kennedy's motorcade.

'Nuff said . . .



Old NFO said...

Interesting take on it... No disagreement here.

boron said...

Oh Sh*t! Here we go again! and again.

Peteforester said...

The "Ukraine war" lost me very early on. My question was why we were suddenly concerned with Russia and the Uke duking it out as they have been since the Middle Ages. There was also a recurring appearance of a woman with three kids hanging onto her like baby possums on Fux News. She was supposedly hunkered down in a subway tunnel with the kids. There she was, appearing live at whatever time you were watching, night or day. That was enough to raise suspicion. I mean, everyone has to sleep sometime. Especially a mother with three kids. What really got me was this though. Here we were, in the middle of the "lockdowns," working from home, and attending Zoom meetings. There was NOT.ONE.MEETING where someone, if not all of us, didn't have issues with connectivity; especially the video. This was in a 1st World country with really good internet infrastructure. And yet here was this broad, kids clinging to her like warm-blooded ticks, hunkered down in a subway tunnel in a warzone, and NOT.ONE.HICCUP with her connection. NOTHING. The video was PERFECT. The sound was PERFECT. It was a true Capricorn One moment for me. That setup was STAGED!

No, just as with COVID, America was played...

lynn said...

How long until we officially send in USA troops ?

Rumors are floating around that we have 300 to 3,000 Special Forces troops in Ukraine. The rumors are very strong that we are running the HIMARS artillery that we sent them. I don't know if we have shipped an Iron Dome system to Ukraine yet but this article says no.

Aesop said...


1) If we don't have military observers as close to the fighting in Ukraine as they can get without actually getting shot or captured, the entire Joint Chiefs should be fired. That's what they're for.

2) If the Ukraine-tasked SFODAs aren't in-country or close nearby, and doing the exact FID they're designed to do, the CG of JSOC should also be fired, for incompetence. It's what they're for, as well.

3) 3000 troops there is a fairytale. A couple of dozen is a guarantee. And RUMINT is worth every penny you paid for it. Using it is like using Rep. Evita Castro-Guevara as a source. As Cameron Poe said in Con Air, "Put...the bunny...down!"

4) Iron Dome is an Israeli weapon system. We likely won't be shipping them any of those, because we don't have any to spare. We only have two batteries, which would be pointless to send. A battery is only 3-4 launchers, and maybe 50 or so guys. We'd be better off sending them a pallet load of binoculars or MREs.
One battery is stationed on Guam for defense, and the other is used for testing.
And they're $50-100M, each.

They make a lot of sense for a country the size of New Jersey, where every civilian death from homemade HAMAS rockets matters.
Not so much for a country the size of Texas, where 5-10% of Russian drones and missiles have been getting through since last February.

Aesop said...

The entire question is a Straw Man fallacy.

If we were "at war" with Russia, you wouldn't be reading this. Neither would 100M of your friends and neighbors -- the ones still alive a month later. (A year later, probably only a couple of million or so.)

When you start the question on a basis of open fraud, it's pointless to continue the discussion.

I'd suggest a retry.

If what you meant to ask, properly stated, was "Why is the US sending metric craptons of war materiel and financial aid to Ukraine after the fourth Russian invasion of their country in the last 9 years?"

I'm pretty sure it's got a lot to do with trying to stop Russian military adventurism and Vlad's greed over on the eastern border of Ukraine, rather than on the eastern border of Poland, or somewhere else along the pre-Brest-Litovsk line which deliniated Czarist Russia back to time out of mind.

Because that latter approach either dissolves NATO, or kicks off the Canned Sunshine and subsequent casualties mentioned in the opening.,to%20assist%20the%20Ally%20attacked.

This is "Foreign Policy 101 For Kindergarteners"-level stuff.

If you or anyone can articulate a rationale for waiting until we have a mandatory no-$#!^ global thermonuclear exchange, and should then rather fight that conflict than support this one, I'd like to hear the rationale in support.

Neither malign sheer evil, nor delusional psychosis will be considered adequate excuse, which severely curtails further discussion.

Skyler the Weird said...

Supposedly some US troops were vacationing in Ukraine and were injured when the Pizza Parlour they were eating at was bombed.

Anonymous said...

You've failed to prove that Russia has any interest whatsoever in Poland. But thanks for playing. Now that I know you approved of the 20 years we spent wasted in the desert, bleeding ourselves dry, I can forever discount anything you ever say from this day forward. Because you just said "we have to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here!!1!" But phrased differently. Well f that. Dissolve NATO, close our foreign bases, and tell the rest of the world to put on their big boy pants.

Dov Sar said...

I do not understand why no one talks about the Budapest Memorandum signed in 1994; the US, the UK and Russia gave their word to defend the borders of Ukraine in exchange for them giving up their nuclear weapons; they were the third largest nuclear power at that time. Russia obviously broke their word, but the US and the UK are at least trying to keep it. What does the blogger think about keeping treaties.......are we bound by our word, and why is no one talking about that promise on either side of the argument?

tsquared said...

I see it as the biggest money laundering scheme ever run.

Anonymous said...

@Anonymous: the military-industrial complex thanks you for your short-sighted cluelessness that will result in a bigger and more expensive war.

Your claim that Russia has no interest in Poland flies in the face of history and the fact that Moscow continuously whines about Warsaw joining NATO.

Anonymous said...

Domestic politics. The blogger can't bring himself to support anything that Biden and co. are in favor of.

Bart Noir said...

Skipping past the substance of TC's words, I have to say that they were painful to read. Because whatever program was used to listen to his words and transcribe them into written English was sub-optimal, to say the least. I literally can't make sense of a couple of lines, including the very last one.

If this is an example of "AI" then at least my generation has no reason to worry about Skynet taking over.