Tuesday, August 15, 2023

Is Trump's indictment in Georgia intended to "trump" the Electoral College in 2024?

 

I'm wary of conspiracy theories and those who disseminate them.  There's enough of them out there to wallpaper the world by now.  For a current example, just look at all the weird theories about the fires in Hawaii and who (or what) is behind them!

However, one poster on Gab had this to say about President Trump's indictment by a grand jury in Fulton County, Georgia.  I've left out only a few words.


All of the charges against Trump, including Georgia's sealed indictments, are absolute BS. I am not a fan of Trump, but I know he is being railroaded. That said, here is the cold reality of the situation:

Blacks despise Trump with a hatred that is hard to explain. Fulton County is almost entirely black. They will convict Trump.

In Georgia, that will immediately disqualify Trump for running for office in that state (Felony convicts are prohibited from running for office in Georgia). That means Trump immediately loses the electoral college, even if every other state allowed him to run (many have similar prohibitions against felons). There is no path because AZ, PA, and MI are Democrat controlled states that will ensure Dem victories in 2024 - no matter who runs for office. The only path to victory is the following: keep all of the 2020 Trump states, flip Georgia back to red, and take the only potential swing state left - Virginia. That is the mathematical reality. That is threading a needle.

The only shot Trump has in Georgia is Governor Brian Kemp. After the trial, Kemp can pardon Trump in time to qualify him for the election. Gov Kemp has shown his outright hatred for Trump twice - 2020 and 2022. In addition, Kemp and DeSantis have a very good cross border working relationship. The attacks on both Kemp and DeSantis will hang over any decision to pardon Trump - at least in time for an election.

You don't have to like it. I am just stating facts.

I think that which is happening to Trump is simply wrong on every level. But his chances of winning the presidency ended this evening. It really does not matter what happens in other states regardless of the primary.

What you should take away from all of this is the following:

Voting never mattered. The federal government is NOT your answer ... You have no power in the current system. It is irrevocably broken and no one is coming to save you.


I make no comment concerning the legitimacy (or otherwise) of the Fulton County charges against President Trump.  They'll be decided by the court that tries his case.  However, I know enough about Fulton County, its demographics, and previous election problems there, to understand that there's a fair amount of meat on this bone.  Whether it's healthy or rotten meat will be revealed as events unfold.

Taken in tandem with the multiple charges brought against President Trump in multiple jurisdictions, one can't call this anything other than a deliberate abuse of the legal system to stop him running for another term as President, any way they can manage it.  I don't know how many felony charges he's facing right now, but they've got to number in the dozens, perhaps the scores.  If this goes on, he'll face over a hundred of them.  It's piling on "lawfare" to an absolutely ludicrous extent.  Justice authorities, both federal and state, give the appearance of having been subverted, co-opted and weaponized to overrule the "will of the people" and the constitution.  It's so blatant and in-your-face that there's no escaping it.

As I've said on several previous occasions:  TINVOWOOT.  There is no voting our way out of this.

So . . . if we can't vote our way out of this . . .what CAN we do?

Don't tell me here.  I don't want to stir up excessively inflammatory discussion in these pages, if only because it'll make anyone doing that a target - and those behind the lawfare against President Trump won't hesitate to use the same weapons against lesser targets.  (If you read the comments following that post on Gab, a lot of people are leaving themselves wide open to such retaliation.)  However, I do urge you to think very carefully about what you can, and are prepared to, do . . . because the day is not far distant when each and every one of us will have to answer that question, in word and in deed.  It won't matter if we're male or female, old or young, conservative or liberal - we're all threatened by this overreach, this abuse of power.  One side alone won't fix that.  It'll take all of us, all right-thinking Americans (with a small 'r').

The final sentence in the lesson left to us by our Founding Fathers should be firmly in our minds.  So should the admonition of Benjamin Franklin, one of their number.  Whether you like President Trump or not, apply that historical reality to what's being done to him right now, and let your eyes be opened.

Peter


18 comments:

Anonymous said...

Excerpt from the quoted commentary:
"Blacks despise Trump with a hatred that is hard to explain."
Incorrect, Trump actually improved his share of the black vote in 2020 over 2016. Still low, but he did better than his predecessor Republican presidential candidates.

What Atlanta does seem to have, however, is an especially heavy representation of a particular demographic: the fat, obnoxious, entitled African-American in the Department of Motor Vehicles determined to make your experience there a living hell.

If convicted, Trump should get the pardon from Gov. Kemp. I expect the pressure from Trump supporters on Kemp will be too great for him to refuse. But who knows, maybe he wakes up with a bloody horse's head in his bed …

Anonymous said...

Regardless of whether Trump is found guilty, enough people out there realize that the conviction is simply to prevent him from running for the POTUS office. Unless another candidate steps up that gives me evidence they will not continue the beeline for the reef, I will simply write in Donald Trump on my ballot and vote. if the vote counter chooses to throw my vote out, simply more evidence that the vote was rigged as I already strongly suspect.

Nobody tells me who and who I cannot vote for. I can make up my mind for myself. Everyone else can do the same.

Night driver said...

A 22 pound Brass Jackass comes to mind.

(cf "Windows War" Mikke Vanderbough )

Divemedic said...

Even if you don't like Trump, it's hard not to see what is being done here. What scares me is that there are so many who know it and are cheering for it.

Kemp can't and won't pardon Trump. There are only two possibilities here:
1 He is part of the establishment and wants to see Trump lose, or
2 He isn't part of the establishment, but sees the writing on the wall. Pardoning Trump will place a target on his own back.

No, the other side has shown that they are willing to ignore the law (unless using it as a weapon) and the rules.

Dan said...

The left truly fears and hates Trump. Because he is a true OUTSIDER. He is not and has never been a part of the huge two faced Janus Party that runs American politics. Which is why the left and many on the right conspired to STEAL the elections in 2020. To keep him out. The left has been perfecting it's vote fraud machinery ever since the "hanging chad" debacle in Florida in the 2000 election. The "Plannedemic" was the excuse to implement massive wide spread "mail in voting". A scheme that made it childs play to manipulate the results to give them what they wanted. They repeated it in 2022 in more races. Next year the fraud will be truly massive and wide spread. The nasty reality is that America as founded and intended is dead...the corpse just hasn't cooled down enough for rigor mortis to set in.

Anonymous said...

Yeah another in that long line of "conspiracy theories" about Maui- well all the others turned out to be true, place your bets. Dude it was a directed energy weapon the evidence is everywhere, they aren't even trying to hide it anymore.
This is all out war, guv vs constituents.

Anonymous said...

Not this nonsense again.
Sorry, Mac. If you look at the actual numbers in the races, 2022 came down to candidate quality, unless you're under the delusion that voter fraudsters would go to the trouble of of manufacturing hundreds of thousands of split ballots.

boron said...

What is the most common language spoken in the majority of the Banana Republics?

Anonymous said...

This line in particular is nonsense: "There is no path because AZ, PA, and MI are Democrat controlled states that will ensure Dem victories in 2024." I'm not sure about Michigan, but I have looked at the 2022 numbers for Arizona and Pennsylvania. In both states, if people had voted for the Republican candidates for governor and Senator in the same numbers that they voted for Republicans for the House, the GOP would have both governorships and the senate seats. Unless you're going to propose that the Dems went to the trouble of manufacturing hundreds of thousands of split ballots, that is not the problem.

The fact is that "voter fraud" is not the reason why there is no path to victory for Trump in 2024. The reason why is because he is a lousy candidate with a high floor and a low ceiling of support. Not, mind you, that I expect the idiot blackpillers who want to shoot their way out of this to get that.

dlsada said...

The idiot DA in Fulton County said she will try all 19 defendants at the same trial. As a prosecutor, I can tell you that is impossible in all respects. Just discovery with 19 defendants could take three years. This case was never for trial and will never get to trial. Read the absurd allegations!!! The case was indicted to get a perp walk and a mug shot, full stop. The mug shot will likely go down in history as the biggest backfire in history, much like the mugshots of Johnny Cash, Mick Jagger and Jimi Hendrix.

Aesop said...

This only ends in gunfire and piles of bodies.

All that remains to be seen now is whose bodies will predominate.

Look to your own preparations for what's coming.

boron said...

@ Aesop:
The French, dare I say it, found a far more effective way back towards the end of the Eighteenth Century; public executions can be a great deterrent.

Anonymous said...

re: "disqualify Trump for running for office in that state (Felony convicts are prohibited from running for office in Georgia)"

He's not...he would be running for a federal office.

Not that any of it really matters....

Aerschig said...

In Georgia, the governor doesn't have pardon power. Pardon power is invested in some kind of judicial committee. The system is deliberately set up to make pardons very difficult.

JG said...

After 2020 election the GA State Senate had a committee investigate in 2021 check the election for fraud. They found fraud in multiple ways:
1. Mail in ballots were sent from bogus addresses in the state and outside the state, sometimes in mass.
2. The numbers of ballots reported at times could not match people voting
3. Fulton County stopped counting ballots because of a "water pipe issue" and cleared all people out, but per videos a few Democrats stayed behind pulling out hidden ballots and feeding them into the system often multiple times
4. Many ballots showed just Biden and no others on them with no creases indicating they were not mailed
5. A GA southern county clerk showed how the Dominion Voting Machine could change any ballot without being tied to the internet
6. The Dominion Voting Machines, mail in ballots, and additional drop boxes were a decision by the GOV and SoS without Legislature input or approval and per the Constitution the Legislature is required to make and approve all changes
7. Massive drop box stuffing happened (this was later shown in the film 2000mules)
8. Ballots are required per Federal Law to be kept for 22 months but a large amount are missing and were seen to be driven away by trucks
This was given to the GA State Senate President and GOV Kemp but neither took it forward.

Now the Fulton County DA issues a multi-count indictment of Trump before the DA's Grand Jury had completed and she pulled it back. Then it gets through the Grand Jury and to a Judge at 11PM at night, which is a wonder as I do not know how a Judge will go through such paperwork at 11PM and approve it. This is corruption period.

Bruce said...

"In Georgia, that will immediately disqualify Trump for running for office in that state (Felony convicts are prohibited from running for office in Georgia). That means Trump immediately loses the electoral college, even if every other state allowed him to run (many have similar prohibitions against felons)."

The campaigns of both Eugene V. Debbs and Lyndon LaRouche both prove the above quote is false.

This Georgia law does not apply to candidates for the Presidency. And if they try to apply it, it will be thrown out as unconstitutional.

The United States Constitution trumps (pun intended) State Constitutions and State Laws. It is the Supreme Law of the Land. Period. Dot. The United States Constitution clearly, exclusively, and exhaustively defines what the qualifications are for running for and holding the office of President of the United States of America. The US Constitution is the final word on this and every attempt to modify it or add to it by States have been overturned by SCOTUS.

Landroll said...

Is barretry not a charge anywhere and does no one have standing to file it? If 'lawfare' isn't a fine example of it, my grasp of language and custom is sorely lacking.

Anonymous said...

It is not possible for Kemp to pardon Trump. Governors do not have pardon power in that state.